Should Dylann Roof receive the death penalty?/Will he?

[Fuzzybigfoot]

He doesn't deserve to die quickly by the hands of the state.  He should rot in prison for the rest of his miserable life.  

edit: lol at conservatives thinking that death is the worst thing that can happen to people.

[Badger]

He doesn't deserve to die quickly by the hands of the state.  He should rot in prison for the rest of his miserable life.  

edit: lol at conservatives thinking that death is the worst thing that can happen to people.

and lol at liberals who think that that, even when a capital defendant fights like holy hell for years to save their lives, even if it'll be spent behind bars, that the liberals secretly know what the 'real' worst punishment is..

Yes, there are the 'volunteers' who waive their appeals process in favor of a ((relatively ) speedy execution, but until when and IF Roof proves to be such a statistical anomoly, let's be intellectually honest about what killers like he truly consider the ultimate penalty.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

He doesn't deserve to die quickly by the hands of the state.  He should rot in prison for the rest of his miserable life.  

edit: lol at conservatives thinking that death is the worst thing that can happen to people.

and lol at liberals who think that that, even when a capital defendant fights like holy hell for years to save their lives, even if it'll be spent behind bars, that the liberals secretly know what the 'real' worst punishment is..

Yes, there are the 'volunteers' who waive their appeals process in favor of a ((relatively ) speedy execution, but until when and IF Roof proves to be such a statistical anomoly, let's be intellectually honest about what killers like he truly consider the ultimate penalty.

So you would rather be locked up in a small cell for 70 years than be killed? 

[Badger]

He doesn't deserve to die quickly by the hands of the state.  He should rot in prison for the rest of his miserable life.  

edit: lol at conservatives thinking that death is the worst thing that can happen to people.

and lol at liberals who think that that, even when a capital defendant fights like holy hell for years to save their lives, even if it'll be spent behind bars, that the liberals secretly know what the 'real' worst punishment is..

Yes, there are the 'volunteers' who waive their appeals process in favor of a ((relatively ) speedy execution, but until when and IF Roof proves to be such a statistical anomoly, let's be intellectually honest about what killers like he truly consider the ultimate penalty.

So you would rather be locked up in a small cell for 70 years than be killed? 

No, assuming he's not legally insane, or some HIGHLY unlikely demonstrable other factor, i'd much prefer his trrial and appeals process lead to his execution by the end of the decade. Not likely, that quick, though.

[TDAS04]

No/Yes.  I oppose the death penalty, but he should spend the rest of his life rotting in prison.

[pbrower2a]

Diminished capacity. Mental illness.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Yes and Yes.  If SC has the death penalty there's no doubt he'll have a date with Ole Sparky.

[pbrower2a]

The electric chair is no longer in use. By the time he would be executed (if he is convicted of a capital crime and sentenced to death, and the death penalty is not abolished) the likely means will be nitrogen asphyxiation.

[Simfan34]

Life without parole in super max solitary is arguably even more cruel and unusual a punishment than simply killing the guy. The anti-death penalty people are the real savages in this case.

All the better.

[CountryClassSF]

He should, but he won't.

[SWE]

The state should not have the power to kill anyone, but obviously he deserves death.

[pbrower2a]

[A deleted post] ignored the possibility of having a more aggressive and decisive of dedicating more resources to the treatment of mental illness. Mental illness does not usually make sense.  We Americans are shamefully inattentive to mental illness that ruins lives.

Mental illness and firearms make a horrible combination. Even with self-the least-dangerous (to others) mental illness, depression, firearms make suicide far more likely.

...the same Internet that could radicalize a troubled young man could have also given him a chance to encounter his own demons. I wish that he had gotten to know by experience that there are good black people. The Congregation of that A M E Church have shown what mercy and humanity are. One need not like African-American culture to have the minimal live-and-let-live attitude necessary for social peace. The solution to bad influences from the Internet is the good alternatives.

Had I had authority over the kid I would have ensured that he got to encounter the objects of his fear and loathing in the least menacing environment possible -- like a church with a largely-black congregation. Such might have saved some lives -- including those of the shooter, thank you.  

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I think it is rather simplistic to equate evil with mental illness. Evil is a disease of the soul rather than of the mind.

[RFayette]

Everyone knows supermax is terrible.

But here's the thing:  death row is supermax conditions in nearly every state.  People sentenced to LWOP on murder beats only get solitary if it's federal time (at ADX Florence) or in some states which love supermax (like Colorado's state prison system).  At the state system, Roof might get protective custody, but that's often not as bad as death row conditions.  In some areas, the PC inmates can interact with each other, just not the general population. 

I think most people would find California's PC units (SNY's), which have a yard and some interaction, much nicer than their death row (which is supermax basically), for instance. Of course, Roof could get raped and beat up in that environment, but I think it's still preferable to the tedium of pure isolation.

So if you want supermax isolation, then the death penalty guarantees it.  LWOP doesn't necessarily.

[pbrower2a]

I think is rather simplistic to equate evil with mental illness. Evil is a disease of the soul rather than of the mind.

I ordinarily consider evil a matter of personal choice. Mental illness often makes a travesty of choice.

To consider mental illness 'evil' is like calling creatures best described as automatons (like jellyfish) or non-living entities (like storms) evil when they take human life. Mental illness can kill.

The real evil may be in neglecting mental illness.