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« on: June 19, 2015, 03:35:00 PM »

After watching the major right-wing freakout over the impending Obergefell V. Hodges decision, I've come to the realization that not only will this be the next Roe V. Wade in that the GOP will spend the next four decades trying to undo it, but it will also be the next Brown V. Board of Education. I think force may be necessary in Alabama, Louisiana, and Kansas to say the least. What say you Atlasians?
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2015, 05:15:03 PM »

There will be extreme pressure from national Republicans for compliance because they desperately will not want to be associated with George Wallace the year before a presidential election.  I think any resistance will be limited to 1-3 states, with Brownback, Fallin, Abbott or Bentley being the most likely to push the limits.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2015, 06:11:31 PM »

I think it'll just be Alabama where you have some trouble, but it shouldn't last for very long.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2015, 06:57:12 PM »

Yes. Among the 15 states that don't have full ssm legalization:

Alabama and Kansas will continue to ignore the rulings

MS/LA/TX/NE might ignore SCOTUS

MI/OH/KY/TN/GA/SD/ND/MO/AR will likely comply with SCOTUS.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2015, 07:04:09 PM »

If Oklahoma didn't go the nullification route, I doubt even Alabama will.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2015, 07:49:22 PM »

If Oklahoma didn't go the nullification route, I doubt even Alabama will.

Alabama is already on the nullification route. I highly doubt they will suddenly change just because a few more justices tell them to do so.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2015, 09:42:43 PM »

If Oklahoma didn't go the nullification route, I doubt even Alabama will.

Alabama is already on the nullification route. I highly doubt they will suddenly change just because a few more justices tell them to do so.

Oops, forgot it's already legal in OK and they apparently fully complied, so scratch Fallin off my short list.  And amazingly, there was no organized resistance to it in SC either.  I really think this comes down to AL and KS.  MS doesn't want this on their record after the horrific mess there 50 years ago.
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2015, 11:07:11 PM »

I hope that once SCOTUS rules and ends any hope of the lower court decisions being reversed that Alabama will see the light.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2015, 11:35:46 AM »

No, that won't be necessary. Organized governmental resistance to this will be limited to grandstanding speeches and a few clerks who will let themselves get fired in order to get onto the right wing gravy train.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2015, 12:59:27 PM »

If abortions (which many think are murder) are still conducted in these states there's no way there will be widespread State government resistance to something as unoffensive as "cheapening rill marriage".
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2015, 03:52:49 PM »

No
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 08:09:31 PM »

No. This isn't the 1950s. The Supreme Court is behind public opinion on this issue anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 11:18:13 PM »

No, he'll have to use the nukes. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2015, 01:10:46 PM »

No-the whole GOP has shifted on this issue. Maybe in the 1990's they'd resist but there's no gains to be made from stopping a couple of 60 year lesbians in Alabama marrying
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2015, 07:35:45 PM »

So far, the answer appears to be:

Yes for LA and KS
Potential Yes for TX and MS
No for all other states
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2015, 08:03:09 PM »

So far, the answer appears to be:

Yes for LA and KS
Potential Yes for TX and MS
No for all other states

AL might just ban marriage in its entirety.  I'm opposed to the ruling, but that would be a bit ridiculous!
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2015, 08:26:42 PM »

Threaten to withhold federal funds for highway projects... then that will stop it.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2015, 08:52:29 PM »

Threaten to withhold federal funds for highway projects... then that will stop it.
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2015, 08:53:11 PM »

Threaten to withhold federal funds for highway projects... then that will stop it.

That would not stop TX - unlike most states, TX sends more to Washington in taxes than the amount of federal funding it receives - i.e. TX does not need federal funding to survive. However, it would bankrupt AL/MS/LA/KS.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2015, 07:15:10 PM »

After watching the major right-wing freakout over the impending Obergefell V. Hodges decision, I've come to the realization that not only will this be the next Roe V. Wade in that the GOP will spend the next four decades trying to undo it, but it will also be the next Brown V. Board of Education. I think force may be necessary in Alabama, Louisiana, and Kansas to say the least. What say you Atlasians?

Nay. Opposition will fold like an accordion after some initial resistance, just for show. Conservatives in this country are gutless.
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2015, 02:02:37 AM »

I think it'll just be Alabama where you have some trouble, but it shouldn't last for very long.

The guard in those states will stand with their state and resist. Indiana will join in too.
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2015, 07:31:04 AM »

I think it'll just be Alabama where you have some trouble, but it shouldn't last for very long.

The guard in those states will stand with their state and resist. Indiana will join in too.

That would be refreshing.

Federal Agent: "Hey, we've come to enforce the Supreme Court ruling."

"Oh yeah? Enforce this," says the 'national' guardsman while grabbing himself. "Get the **** off my lawn!"

I could definitely write that scene.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2015, 05:50:15 PM »

I think it'll just be Alabama where you have some trouble, but it shouldn't last for very long.

The guard in those states will stand with their state and resist. Indiana will join in too.

It would be quite absurd if a second civil war started because a bunch of homophobes couldn't bear the thought of marriage equality and social acceptance for LGBT+ individuals.
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2015, 05:53:34 PM »

I think it'll just be Alabama where you have some trouble, but it shouldn't last for very long.

The guard in those states will stand with their state and resist. Indiana will join in too.

It would be quite absurd if a second civil war started because a bunch of homophobes couldn't bear the thought of marriage equality and social acceptance for LGBT+ individuals.
Practically all civil wars start for absurd reasons. That said, I don't see one even remotely likely to start over this or any other current issue in the US.
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2015, 06:21:20 AM »

I think it'll just be Alabama where you have some trouble, but it shouldn't last for very long.

The guard in those states will stand with their state and resist. Indiana will join in too.

This is hilarious.
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