Duggar family > Obama family, say Romney voters

[Phony Moderate]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ppp-poll-obama-duggars-romney

By a margin of 67-12. Of course certain people will be more angry at PPP for asking the question than at the two-thirds of Romney voters...don't know why though.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Better to be a child molester than a ni**er.
But hey, don't tell that Republicans are racists.

[pbrower2a]

Such reflects the extreme partisanship of our time. The Hard Right distrusts the President enough to trust a family with big problems to a President who is ...you know what.

It could be that people in ultra-conservative Christian sects have more problems than more easy-going people on sexuality. Think of all the problems that arise when one has a world-view that holds that sex is only for procreation to expand the numbers of the Elect who are to overwhelm people who don't have so many children.  So marry the girls off early so that they can start having babies before they can have any question about what they are taught.

Sexual desire is a reality. Repressed people might try to toe the line, but eventually they find surreptitious outlets in which they get away with something seem as abhorrent even outside their religious community as within. Add to that, kids brought up in ultra-conservative Christian sects can't be isolated forever. Sure, kids might be home-schooled in restrictive, isolating environments; eventually kids get to discover, as through paid work, that there is more to the world than the limited world that they know.

Ultra-conservative parents might raise intelligent kids who have never seen evidence that the world is something more than 6000 or so years old, that the Founding Fathers of America were not Fundamentalist Christians, that non-Fundamentalists can be decent and humane people, or that there is contraception. Eventually the kids find out that the world that they were brought up in is the exception and not the norm. Such makes some sort of rebellion a certainty.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

And they wonder why they're seen as crazy and out of touch.

[Free Bird]

Better to be a child molester than a ni**er.
But hey, don't tell that Republicans are racists.

It has ing nothing to do with race and all to do with party, petty as that is

[pbrower2a]

Better to be a child molester than a ni**er.
But hey, don't tell that Republicans are racists.

It has ing nothing to do with race and all to do with party, petty as that is

That is bad enough. Republicans still believe that no human suffering is excessive so long as it turns a profit.

[Maxwell]

Why have conservatives so latched themselves onto this family, and so much so after one of them was revealed to be a child molester? This whole saga is so strange to me.

[Boston Bread]

How many actually know who the Duggar's are? If they didn't then might as well choose the non-Obama option.

[WVdemocrat]

And they wonder why they're seen as crazy and out of touch.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Better to be a child molester than a ni**er.
But hey, don't tell that Republicans are racists.

[DC Al Fine]

Better to be a child molester than a ni**er.
But hey, don't tell that Republicans are racists.

It has ing nothing to do with race and all to do with party, petty as that is

[pbrower2a]

Why have conservatives so latched themselves onto this family, and so much so after one of them was revealed to be a child molester? This whole saga is so strange to me.

Conservatives used to allege that liberals were soft on crime. We caught on, finding that crime was a personal choice typical of sociopaths and psychopaths, both of which categories are typically one-person crime waves.

"Conservatism", I regret to say, has often become a euphemism for a harsh agenda in which the powerful can abuse the powerless at any time because such is human nature. Such a world-view offends my sensibilities, especially when such occurs within a family. We need not accept the excuse of 'human nature' for individual evil. People must endeavor to be and do good even if they have strong inclinations to the contrary.


 

[pbrower2a]

Why have conservatives so latched themselves onto this family, and so much so after one of them was revealed to be a child molester? This whole saga is so strange to me.

Right-leaning people generally have such a pessimistic view of human nature that they are willing to tolerate the worst so long as it serves their ends. Left-leaning people are willing to abandon a political figure who has gone wrong. Just think of how quickly liberals abandoned such pols as Dan Rostenkowski, Kwame "Crook'patrick", and William Jefferson when they went bad even if such gave a temporary advantage to the other side. Liberals gave up on John Edwards when he was found to have cheated on his dying wife. Contrast how long the Right stood by Newt Gingrich. I can't see yet how John Edwards was worse than Newt Gingrich. Of course I was never going to vote for Newt Gingrich anyway.

I did vote for John Edwards in the Democratic primary in 2008 because I remembered him as a fiery populist. That was before I found out.

Right-leaning people are more vulnerable to political opportunists who tell them exactly what they want to hear -- no matter how roguish the person had been. Liberals are more likely to ask why someone who at first sight seems like an opportunist  has decided to seek a leadership role in their cause.

The extreme? The German Establishment of the 1930s  thought that they had found a "nice young man" who had told them exactly what they wanted to hear. Never mind that he had staged a violent rebellion against a State government only a few years earlier and never apologized for such. The right side of the German political spectrum of the time got snookered by that 'nice young man'. The left side of the German political spectrum was not fooled.

It's a long story, but it makes some interesting reading if you are willing to put in the time.

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/