Black Americans Are Killed At 12 Times The Rate As In Other Developed Countries

[Torie]

Per the data put up by 538.  But then we already knew that the homicide rate among African Americans was horrific. This just gives it context.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Now you need to put up an article about which race kills the blacks at 12 times the other races, since there's constant screaming that blacks are overwhelmingly occupying the jail cells of Murica.

[Tender Branson]

This wouldn't all be such a big problem if US Blacks would have better education, less poverty, less access to guns and a low concentration of them living in inner-city ghettos and more evenly spread out accross the country like Whites. If these factors would be met and they also get good jobs through limited racism by white bosses, I doubt their homicide numbers would be much higher than that of Whites.

I wonder if the homicide rate among UK Blacks or French Blacks is anyway comparable to that of the US Black-White gap. I guess not. There is a gap for sure, but significantly lower because these countries provide a better welfare net for their Black residents or simply better conditions for their life.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Thread title is misleading. They didn't look at homicide rates in other countries by race.  If there were that much disparity between blacks in US and blacks in Britain or France, it would be a bit surprising. But this disparity between blacks and the general population of Western Europe is sadly not.

[Torie]

Thread title is misleading. They didn't look at homicide rates in other countries by race.  If there were that much disparity between blacks in US and blacks in Britain or France, it would be a bit surprising. But this disparity between blacks and the general population of Western Europe is sadly not.

The thread title was lifted from the linked site, which brought up your precise point, but I think the speculation is that the homicide rate for blacks in Western Europe is still far lower than in the US for blacks. If you have data to the contrary, that would be interesting to see. The implication of course, to the extent a disparity exists for blacks in each area, is that some of it might be due to disparate gun laws, and a disparate social safety net, or whatever.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Thread title is misleading. They didn't look at homicide rates in other countries by race.  If there were that much disparity between blacks in US and blacks in Britain or France, it would be a bit surprising. But this disparity between blacks and the general population of Western Europe is sadly not.

The thread title was lifted from the linked site, which brought up your precise point, but I think the speculation is that the homicide rate for blacks in Western Europe is still far lower than in the US for blacks. If you have data to the contrary, that would be interesting to see. The implication of course, to the extent a disparity exists for blacks in each area, is that some of it might be due to disparate gun laws, and a disparate social safety net, or whatever.

for UK (England and Wales): Black murder victims about 11% of victim population, and blacks make up about 3% of general population.   So a significant racial disparity - about 4 times the rate of whites in UK as compared to 8 times the rate of whites in US.  So it appears to be true that blacks have about 5x the murder victim rate in US than UK, as whites have about 2.5x

On the other hand, UK has even more black/white disparity than US on the other side of the criminal justice system (imprisonment).  So not all these social indicators go in the same direction.