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Question: Which of the below Republicans would be weakest against Clinton in the general election?
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Jeb Bush
 
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Scott Walker
 
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Marco Rubio
 
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« on: June 22, 2015, 04:59:48 PM »

Bush, Walker, and Rubio are the top 3 in the nationwide primary polling, and they're all serious candidates.  

I'm going with Walker.  Rubio and Bush could do well with Hispanics, but Walker is basically Republicans tripling down on the 'we don't need minorities' election strategy.  

I'm not convinced he would carry Wisconsin either, and even if he could Florida would be a much better state to have the home state effect in.

I think Rubio might be the strongest.  Bush's family name will weigh him down.
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2015, 05:06:56 PM »

Rubio is an empty suit who would be exposed as such as soon as the first debate if not before that.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2015, 05:07:19 PM »

Jeb Bush
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2015, 05:09:11 PM »

They'd all do about the same. Walker would probably do less well because he seems like the dumbest. Rubio might do a little bit better because of Hispanics. They're all basically the same though.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2015, 05:15:42 PM »

Of these three, probably Walker.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2015, 05:19:19 PM »

Of these three, probably Walker.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 05:22:01 PM »

Rubio would definitely be the strongest. I voted that Bush would be the weakest, but I can certainly see why some would go with Walker.
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2015, 05:25:08 PM »

Anti-union Walker would lose Ohio, and put Pennsylvania and Michigan off the table.

RealClearPolitics has the matchups.
Clinton vs Walker, Clinton +6.2,
Clinton vs Bush, Clinton +5
Clinton vs Rubio, Clinton +4

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2015, 05:30:22 PM »

It is looking like Walker could be the weakest of the three listed. He seems to be in trouble in WI right now with his approval ratings in the toilet. At first glance he should have a boost in the midwest, especially in key states like WI, IA, OH, and PA.

His hardcore anti worker and anti union stances though are turning off the huge union segments of these states. Organized Labour will mobilize against his plutocratic randian Koch inspired policies. Polls have him down against Hillary in the midwest. He also has no Hispanic appeal like Jeb or Rubio and no special appeal to Florida. With a Walker v Clinton matchup I would not be surprised to see Florida to the left of the nation in 2016 , putting the Republicans in a huge bind.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 05:33:03 PM »

Romney at least had some appeal to moderate voters. Walker has none.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2015, 05:34:50 PM »

They'd all do about the same. Walker would probably do less well because he seems like the dumbest. Rubio might do a little bit better because of Hispanics. They're all basically the same though.

As far as I know, Rubio doesn't even speak Spanish. At least I've never heard him speak it. So obviously, Jeb would be a much more attrative choice for latino voters, no matter last name.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2015, 05:40:13 PM »

Rubio.  He's a studio gangsta.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2015, 05:45:25 PM »

He does know Spanish, but it seems he downplays it because he doesn't want to seem to foreign or something to the GOP electorate. He should just embrace it like Jeb has.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2015, 08:56:03 PM »

Scott Walker. He's considerably more gaffe prone compared to Rubio and Bush.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2015, 11:36:18 PM »

Romney at least had some appeal to moderate voters. Walker has none.

Walker at least has a chance of winning his (blue) home state. Romney had none.

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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2015, 01:55:39 AM »

Romney at least had some appeal to moderate voters. Walker has none.

Walker has as much appeal to moderates as any generic Republican. Also, any appeal that Romney had to moderates he had largely renounced by 2012.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2015, 02:45:12 AM »

Walker, because he's too polarizing. His opponents will flock to the polls en masse.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2015, 02:52:45 AM »

There is always the "Nixon to China" effect with these things.  Walker has built up more goodwill with the GOP base, therefore he can more easily afford to move more to center in the general election without constantly worrying about his right flank.

Not sure he's politically skilled enough to pull that off though.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2015, 05:44:15 AM »

Walker, because he's too polarizing. His opponents will flock to the polls en masse.

Obama was polarizing too. Polarizing is often a good thing when he comes across as quite sane and his opponents come across as paranoid. It's just a matter of him choosing the right words rather than these little 5 word sound bites he keeps throwing the media. That would be my only concern, but Bush is doing the same. They're more likely to use it against Walker though.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2015, 05:58:20 AM »

Rubio is an empty suit who would be exposed as such as soon as the first debate if not before that.

Good point. I voted Walker, but Rubio is actually a really weak candidate. People only assume he's good because he's young, attractive, and Hispanic but in reality he's a horrible speaker.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2015, 06:00:28 AM »

Bush.

Bush deprives the GOP of the "dynasty" issue and he's a Bush.  Lot's of people who could be persuaded to vote Republican believe that the Bushes ruined the country.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2015, 06:58:11 AM »

My guess is Walker.

He seems a bit more gaffe-prone and is a weaker speaker.
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2015, 06:59:49 AM »
« Edited: June 23, 2015, 07:16:46 AM by Publius »

Bush. I do think he's the strongest Republican candidate, but he really nullifies the GOP's biggest advantage against House Clinton.

Rubio can be Obama 2008-->handsome fresh face non white guy takes down Mrs. Clinton and her machine.

Walker, it seems, has already won a national election with the Democrats aligned against him when he defended his belt in the 2012 gubernatorial recall.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2015, 07:10:48 AM »

Bush would be a disaster.

Rubio I think could steal it away from her if she chokes though.
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2015, 12:11:39 PM »

Jeb is no prize; he takes all possibility of 'dynasty' or 'previous administration' criticism off the table. But I voted Walker, in the unlikely even he actually gets the nomination he will have shoved his foot so far into his mouth by then that he'll be chewing on his hip when he tries to talk.
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