As Governor, Bill Clinton Kept 'Confederate' Star On The Arkansas Flag
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« on: June 23, 2015, 10:39:45 AM »
« edited: June 23, 2015, 10:44:02 AM by Lincoln Republican »

The Clintons have a history of supporting Confederate symbols.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/22/bill-clinton-arkansas-confederate_n_7638542.html

The state flag of Arkansas sports 25 white stars and four blue ones. And in 1987, while serving as governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton signed a bill affirming that one of those blue stars is there in honor of the Confederate States of America.

As Governor, Bill Clinton did not object to the flag of Arkansas having a star on the flag that honored the Confederate States of America.

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2015, 10:41:24 AM »

In that case Clinton is homophobic for signing DOMA
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2015, 10:50:52 AM »

Stupid nothing point.

Bill Clinton was elected governor in 1978.  That was closer to the Little Rock Nine school desegregation crisis than we are to Bill Clinton's election as President.  Think about that.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2015, 11:21:42 AM »

Stupid nothing point.

Bill Clinton was elected governor in 1978.  That was closer to the Little Rock Nine school desegregation crisis than we are to Bill Clinton's election as President.  Think about that.

He signed commemoration of confederacy in 1987.  You're excusing it because he has a D after his name. Period.

By that standard, you shouldn't attack Dick Cheney for voting against the federal MLK holiday.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 11:25:51 AM »

Stupid nothing point.

Bill Clinton was elected governor in 1978.  That was closer to the Little Rock Nine school desegregation crisis than we are to Bill Clinton's election as President.  Think about that.

He signed commemoration of confederacy in 1987.  You're excusing it because he has a D after his name. Period.

By that standard, you shouldn't attack Dick Cheney for voting against the federal MLK holiday.

Is Bill running in 2016?
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 11:31:51 AM »

Stupid nothing point.

Bill Clinton was elected governor in 1978.  That was closer to the Little Rock Nine school desegregation crisis than we are to Bill Clinton's election as President.  Think about that.

Wow, was it that long ago?
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 12:08:09 PM »

Stupid nothing point.

Bill Clinton was elected governor in 1978.  That was closer to the Little Rock Nine school desegregation crisis than we are to Bill Clinton's election as President.  Think about that.

He signed commemoration of confederacy in 1987.  You're excusing it because he has a D after his name. Period.

By that standard, you shouldn't attack Dick Cheney for voting against the federal MLK holiday.

Is Bill running in 2016?

Everyone knows that with the Clintons you get two for the price of one.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 12:37:58 PM »

Seriously? You're blaming Clinton for not being ahead of regional and national support for the Confederate flag in the 70s and 80s? There were widows of Confederate veterans still alive in those decades. It was only a couple decades beyond Civil Rights. George Wallace was still alive. You're talking about practically a different country at this point.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 12:59:57 PM »

there are much, much better things to attack bill clinton on.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 01:15:22 PM »

surely if he took them down you lot would have attacked him in 1987!
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 01:20:53 PM »

Seriously? You're blaming Clinton for not being ahead of regional and national support for the Confederate flag in the 70s and 80s? There were widows of Confederate veterans still alive in those decades. It was only a couple decades beyond Civil Rights. George Wallace was still alive. You're talking about practically a different country at this point.
lolwhat

Also, I don't get the point of this thread. Bill Clinton is not on the ballot. Shame on those defending him though.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2015, 01:26:34 PM »



Alas, our DLC heroes.

Carter never made any attempt to change the  "lost cause" Georgia flag either.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2015, 01:28:28 PM »

Seriously? You're blaming Clinton for not being ahead of regional and national support for the Confederate flag in the 70s and 80s? There were widows of Confederate veterans still alive in those decades. It was only a couple decades beyond Civil Rights. George Wallace was still alive. You're talking about practically a different country at this point.
lolwhat

Also, I don't get the point of this thread. Bill Clinton is not on the ballot. Shame on those defending him though.

Yep, it's true. In the 1920s and 1930s, there were a few incredibly old Civil War veterans who married much younger women.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2015, 02:05:27 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2015, 02:09:36 PM by Hydera »



Alas, our DLC heroes.

Carter never made any attempt to change the  "lost cause" Georgia flag either.

Guilt by association.

And in the worst of the worst guilt by association. A fan of the person making self-made merchandise does not represent the opinions of the person featured.

Otherwise were just going to scream scandal by scrutinizing every donors to every political candidates and yelling bloody murder each people with dubious moral judgments who gave money and try to blame it on the official candidate even if he/she doesn't share the views of the certain donor.


Hey Mr X how do you feel that one man that donated to you is a neo-nazi?

Mr. X : I will return that man's donation, but i don't see whats the point of your question because i share none of his opinion.

MR X DO YOU AGREE WITH THE GASING OF JEWS???

MR X DO YOU THINK POLES ARE INFERIOR???

MR X!!! MR X!!!!

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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2015, 02:18:01 PM »



Alas, our DLC heroes.

Carter never made any attempt to change the  "lost cause" Georgia flag either.

Guilt by association.

And in the worst of the worst guilt by association. A fan of the person making self-made merchandise does not represent the opinions of the person featured.

Otherwise were just going to scream scandal by scrutinizing every donors to every political candidates and yelling bloody murder each people with dubious moral judgments who gave money and try to blame it on the official candidate even if he/she doesn't share the views of the certain donor.


Hey Mr X how do you feel that one man that donated to you is a neo-nazi?

Mr. X : I will return that man's donation, but i don't see whats the point of your question because i share none of his opinion.

MR X DO YOU AGREE WITH THE GASING OF JEWS???

MR X DO YOU THINK POLES ARE INFERIOR???

MR X!!! MR X!!!!



The main point of the post was to raise the past tolerance of the flag by Southern Democrats, which happens to include Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2015, 02:27:57 PM »

He was also a stark free trader and a conservative Dem. He is more conservative than Hilary. But the economy was good under Clinton when he cut capital gains, not tax rates, as Reagan and Dubya did, lead us into Great Recessions.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2015, 02:36:27 PM »

He was also a stark free trader and a conservative Dem. He is more conservative than Hilary. But the economy was good under Clinton when he cut capital gains, not tax rates, as Reagan and Dubya did, lead us into Great Recessions.


What are you talking about? Tax cuts did not create the early 80s recession, 1990 recession. 2001 recession or 2008 recession.


They were a huge cause of high deficits but to say that they caused recessions doesn't make sense.


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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2015, 02:46:10 PM »

Just saying they didnt help the recessions either, FDR raised rates to 75 percent and Clinton raised taxes and fiscal discipline, and paygo helps economy, in recovery.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2015, 03:48:11 PM »

This thread shouldn't exist.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2015, 07:42:33 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2015, 07:44:48 PM by Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death Points »

Could be worse. They could've supported Hillary. Thank goodness native Son of the South John Edwards was there for the confederate support - oh wait, he wasn't? You mean they chose Hillary over the African American man?



That's OK. It's not like they are supporting her in 2016.
Or will they?



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Bernie might actually have a chance!
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2015, 10:43:51 PM »

Seriously? You're blaming Clinton for not being ahead of regional and national support for the Confederate flag in the 70s and 80s? There were widows of Confederate veterans still alive in those decades. It was only a couple decades beyond Civil Rights. George Wallace was still alive. You're talking about practically a different country at this point.

Hey, if we can blame Republicans for being too friendly with Confederate supporters 150 years after the end of the Civil War, we can blame Democrats for being too friendly 122 years after.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2015, 11:44:47 PM »

Seriously? You're blaming Clinton for not being ahead of regional and national support for the Confederate flag in the 70s and 80s? There were widows of Confederate veterans still alive in those decades. It was only a couple decades beyond Civil Rights. George Wallace was still alive. You're talking about practically a different country at this point.

Hey, if we can blame Republicans for being too friendly with Confederate supporters 150 years after the end of the Civil War, we can blame Democrats for being too friendly 122 years after.

Tolerance of a status quo of racist symbols is one issue. Response to a crisis is another one, and a useful measure of how someone will perform as president. The Republican field failed miserably here.






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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2015, 03:32:04 AM »

But he was the first black President, you know. He helped offshore plenty of blue collar jobs that employed working class blacks, and then kicked them off welfare. So it's all good.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2015, 06:17:28 AM »

OK, I don't feel very comfortable defending him for this, but, to be fair, no statewide officeholder in the South opposed the old Confederate flag in the 1980s. Only in the 1990s the new trend did start with such Governors as Jim Folsom, Jr. (D) in Alabama and David Beasley (R) in South Carolina and Zell Miller of Georgia removing the Confederate flag from state Capitols (Ronnie Musgrove in Mississippi supported changing the state flag but the proposal was defeated in the referendum).

Otherwise, Clinton's civil rights record as Governor was OK.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2015, 06:38:07 AM »
« Edited: June 24, 2015, 06:39:46 AM by OC »

He wasnt the first black president. LBJ appointed Thurgood to SCOTUS.

He was the first D after Reagan 12 yrs of GoP dominance, and by that standard, he was okay by Blacks.  But JFK and Lincoln were historically far better than Clinton was.

Dont forget Howard Dean was chased out of Dem primary by stated, Dems must go after confederates with decals on trucks.
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