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Question: Who will become the 45th President?
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« on: June 23, 2015, 02:18:11 PM »

Who will become the 45th President?
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2015, 02:28:58 PM »

Clinton will win 272-266, winning CO, NV and Pa.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2015, 02:42:42 PM »

JEB! wins
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2015, 02:49:06 PM »

Jeb will come close, but CO and NV will be the tipping pt races, not Ohio, and Clinton's immigration reform package is more comprehensive than the GOP, and it doesnt divide base like it does GOP.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 02:53:55 PM »

I'm not clairvoyant, and yes these threads in my view are a waste of bandwidth.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 02:56:26 PM »

Well you would say that wouldn't you.  Winning the primary is no guarantee to winning a general. Look at Nixon in 1960, had nomination in the bag, didn't stop Jack Kennedy winning the general election.  I have said this before, but I'll say it again.  Hillary looks like a winner,  why because she was married to Bill,  maybe forgetting her untrustworthiness should be forgotten or forgiven.  Her slithering around the trade issue is an example of having your cake & trying to eat it. She was 100% behind it as Secretary of State, it was easy then, because it was 'cool' to be on Obama's side. But it's a different matter now that she's running for President. Funny isn't it? In her "announcement speech on June 13th, no mention or nod to her re cord as Secretary of State. Wonder why? hmmm😑 could it be..dare I say it, Benghazi, emailgate or donations to Clinton Foundation? hmm! Democrats will be attacking this fact check, but the facts or coincidences are funny things.  The fact that Hillary is running away from her past as Secretary of State...introduced as frmr. Senator. .she can't run away fast enough me thinks 😉 The fact that her tenure at State Department was supposed to be manna and not toxic as it is. If I KNOW THIS,  how many in the opposition will be using Hillary's record as Secretary of State and in ways she never imagined😀😁😊 Oh how not to laugh at the irony😀😁😂
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 02:56:58 PM »

Hillary.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 02:58:48 PM »

The answer to your question, is JEB! of course☺
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 03:00:53 PM »

Based on the most recent polls:

Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush





30% -- lead with 40-49% but a margin of 3% or less
40% -- lead with 40-49% but a margin of 4% or more
60% -- lead with 50-54%
70% -- lead with 55-59%
90% -- lead with 60% or more

white = tie


...If Jeb Bush is tied with Hillary Clinton in Arizona, a state that has voted for a Democratic nominee only once since 1948, he is not going to win either Colorado or Nevada.

Ask me again when I see a poll of Virginia, and I can easily see Hillary Clinton winning at least 350 electoral votes. She has too many edges.  
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 03:24:59 PM »

Anyone who claims to know this far out is delusional at best. My guess, as of right now, would be that Hillary would win, and would probably carry most of the Obama '12 states, minus Florida.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 06:39:00 PM »

Anyone who claims to know this far out is delusional at best. My guess, as of right now, would be that Hillary would win, and would probably carry most of the Obama '12 states, minus Florida.

I have nothing here but polling data and the recent histories of the states in Presidential elections. As it stands, nothing shows any indication of electoral results appreciably different from those of 2008 and 2012 even if Hillary Clinton is not the same politician that Barack Obama is.

If he can't win Florida despite having what should be the Favorite Son role, then he loses. 
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2015, 07:00:00 PM »



Clinton/Generic D - 318 EV
Bush/Generic R -220 EV
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2015, 07:04:05 PM »

Clinton, but by less than Obama won.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2015, 07:12:03 PM »

Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2015, 08:18:14 PM »

Hillary 
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2015, 08:19:07 PM »

Hillary's still favored at this point.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2015, 08:23:56 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2015, 08:29:19 PM by dudeabides »

Clinton will win 272-266, winning CO, NV and Pa.

Bush wins narrowly.

President Obama won Colorado and Nevada by 5-6 points in 2012, I don't think all who voted for the President in 2008 and 2012 will vote for Hillary Clinton. Bush's path to victory looks like his brother's path to re-election, he shares his brother's strength and then some with his appeal to hispanic voters, he will do better amongst political moderates, and he will do far better amongst catholic voters. To do as well as W in '04, Jeb Bush would have to win Nevada by 2 points and Colorado by roughly 3 points. I think he can accomplish that.

Consider this:
- In 2004, President Bush won 40% of the hispanic vote and won the election +3
- In 2012, Mitt Romney won 27% of the hispanic vote and lost the election -4

Jeb can win 45-50% of the hispanic vote if he plays his cards right, and off-set Hillary winning probably 56-58% of the female vote. Of course, as I have stated, he needs to also win the catholic vote and, at a minimum, close the gap with moderates and white working-class voters.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2015, 09:20:59 PM »

Jeb can win 45-50% of the hispanic vote if he plays his cards right

That was a typo, right?
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2015, 09:38:43 PM »

Hilldog 385-153

Wins all obamas 2012 and picks up
Nc, ga, az, ne02, and mo by a hair
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 08:40:04 AM »

The Bush name is still to damaged IMO even though I believe he is the best and most qualified person to be the next President of the United States. Rubio or Walker would give Hillary a much tougher challenge in a general election.
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