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Skill and Chance
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« on: June 24, 2015, 06:58:59 PM »

Like many trendy social topics, yes:

Isn't it funny how outrage over a Governor defending a flag is stronger on here than say the increased economic inequality that has happened under Southern Governors like Nikki Haley?  Oh yeah, I will acknowledge that does get covered eventually, but those discussions for some reason don't seem to drum up the same level of universal outrage and discussion as arcane debates like whether or not it is appropriate to have a flag of a nation that has been dead for a hundred and fifty years on the front lawn or which party was more pro-civil rights in the 1960s.

Relevant source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqfsLG6Kuz0

And you guys wonder why most people think the US Congress is a flaming bag of dog shit now days?

Economic inequality is not inherently wrong.  A state government fondly memorializing racism/slavery/segregation/white supremacy is inherently wrong.  Apples and oranges.  
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2015, 08:40:32 PM »


Is it wrong that Elon Musk and Oprah make more than the US median income?  Is it wrong that a surgeon who trained for 12 years post-high school makes more than the US median income?  The part of income inequality that is "wrong" is actually mostly about racism.  That and geographic isolation without owning the local natural resources (WV, NM, etc.).
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2015, 10:59:06 PM »

Like many trendy social topics, yes:

Isn't it funny how outrage over a Governor defending a flag is stronger on here than say the increased economic inequality that has happened under Southern Governors like Nikki Haley?  Oh yeah, I will acknowledge that does get covered eventually, but those discussions for some reason don't seem to drum up the same level of universal outrage and discussion as arcane debates like whether or not it is appropriate to have a flag of a nation that has been dead for a hundred and fifty years on the front lawn or which party was more pro-civil rights in the 1960s.

Relevant source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqfsLG6Kuz0

And you guys wonder why most people think the US Congress is a flaming bag of dog shit now days?

Economic inequality is not inherently wrong.  A state government fondly memorializing racism/slavery/segregation/white supremacy is inherently wrong.  Apples and oranges.  

Oh yes, that blacks and other non-whites make an incredibly less amount of money often times well below the poverty line and have to rely on a very large amount of government welfare than whites and their daddies are a lot more likely to end up in prison and leave millions of kids fatherless due to the racist implementation of the War on Drugs is not as near as horrible as a Dixie flag hanging from the SC legislature.

You surely do have such a great moral superiority here.  If only I could see that stuff that is actually happening to poor minorities now days does not matter.

For the record, this is not a justification for keeping the confederate flag, just that I find the kind of overwhelming news attention on that subject while the very real and racist nature of income inequality in this country is almost ignored if not whitewashed from the media incredible.

Did you not see the follow up?  The component of income inequality that is the result of past or present racism exists and is wrong.  Some inequality will always be present in a free society, however.
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Skill and Chance
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 09:28:27 PM »

No, I tend to be an optimist, and I'm a Republican.  I'm also not a hyperactive, ideologically extreme and rebellious teenager (NOT saying you are, just makin' a joke), so I shall not desperately seek negativity in this great trend of elected officials (and ones from my party, at that) doing the right thing.

Yes.  America in 2015 absolutely still has its problems and it's going to take a lot more than 2 generations for the shadow of 400 years of severe discrimination to fade away, but there is and will continue to be progress.  And as rough as the current economy is, don't forget that 1/3rd of the median US income today buys you a much safer, healthier life than 3X the median income could have in 1915.
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