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« on: June 24, 2015, 03:52:45 PM »

The Pacific is in crisis and the Midwest literally did not have scheduled elections in May. The inactivity virus has so tainted both regions that the only solution to the problem seems to be regional consolidation. The last efforts at doing so failed on account of the relatively high activity in both regions. In this moment, we must consolidate or die. There is no alternative. The undersigned are those in both regions that would like to see merger talks re-opened and the Midwest and Pacific reconstituted as a single Western region of Atlasia.

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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2015, 03:54:53 PM »

Nah, I'd rather try to find some other way to save these regions. But good luck anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2015, 03:59:15 PM »

Nah, I'd rather try to find some other way to save these regions. But good luck anyway.

Sockpuppets in every region?
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2015, 04:06:46 PM »

Desperate times call for bold action. Good luck with this.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2015, 04:07:33 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2015, 04:10:20 PM by Snowguy716 »

Let everyone reside in two regions.  You may only hold office in one but you may reside in and vote in two.

Unorthodox...but it essentially makes things complex enough to make it fun.

Oh..sorry Adam...it makes your job complicated but WHEN HAVE YOU EVER NOT THRIVED ON CHAOS Y(A) DAM GRIFFIN
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2015, 04:23:06 PM »

I've proposed something similar before and I remain in support.
A region with 20-something people (and the number of active people in the teens) is not going to fare well when it comes to having enough candidates good enough to run a government.
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2015, 04:33:24 PM »

As always I continue to support this on the fairly minor condition that the new region retains the name The Pacific instead of something lousy like THE WEST.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2015, 04:40:56 PM »

Nah, I'd rather try to find some other way to save these regions. But good luck anyway.

Sockpuppets in every region?
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2015, 04:57:56 PM »

I support regional consolidation.
But I would like it would go further than, you know, only a merging of the PA and the MW, that would be pointless otherwise.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2015, 05:12:44 PM »

Yeah, I think it's time. be it a fusion of the Midwest and Pacific or a split between various regions, the Pacific as of now should be dismantled.

However, I will not tolerate this crisis being used to destroy mine (or any other active regions, like the Mideast or the South).
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2015, 05:17:58 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2015, 05:29:58 PM »

The best would be a 3 regions map tbh.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2015, 05:54:31 PM »

X Mr. X with the condition that we only eliminate one region.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2015, 05:56:01 PM »

Be careful. You might just give me a reason to stay.
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2015, 06:35:40 PM »

Sounds like it could be a good idea, but leave the Northeast alone. Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North, whose name is Sawx.
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2015, 06:36:08 PM »

If you want to embark on radical change of this kind at least make sure to do it right. A wholesale revision of boundaries or nothing.
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2015, 06:37:10 PM »

I suppose I still need to ask why it is that the Midwest and the Pacific have to be sacrificed while all the other regions (with dilemmas of their own) get to live with no changes at all. Combining two inactive regions is no guarantee of an active one, we can look at the high population of the Mideast and the relative lack of candidates to realize that.
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2015, 07:22:25 PM »

If you want to embark on radical change of this kind at least make sure to do it right. A wholesale revision of boundaries or nothing.

This is my view in short.

Either we do a whole-scale consolidation effort to create 3 regions and start from a blank slate with no concern for present regional boundaries, or nothing at all. Since the former isn't politically feasible, the latter it is.

An easy solution, however, which would basically be constitutional as far as I know, would be to set up a joint government for the two regions. Technically, you'd be living in either the Pacific or Midwest and they'd each vote for a Senator but the regional government would be united.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2015, 07:30:39 PM »

If you want to embark on radical change of this kind at least make sure to do it right. A wholesale revision of boundaries or nothing.

I'd definitely support a complete redraw of all boundaries.
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 07:34:09 PM »

I'd say something, but I'm in prison.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2015, 07:45:04 PM »

No redraws. No rebounds. As a region, we are constantly engaged, and we are constantly active. As governor, it is my duty to make sure that it is maintained, and any fusion with the bulk of any region will destroy our culture of activity and equality.

The Northeast answers to no one.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2015, 07:46:08 PM »

No redraws. No rebounds. As a region, we are constantly engaged, and we are constantly active. As governor, it is my duty to make sure that it is maintained, and any fusion with the bulk of any region will destroy our culture of activity and equality.

The Northeast answers to no one.

Sawx speaks for us all.
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2015, 07:46:56 PM »

No redraws. No rebounds. As a region, we are constantly engaged, and we are constantly active. As governor, it is my duty to make sure that it is maintained, and any fusion with the bulk of any region will destroy our culture of activity and equality.

The Northeast answers to no one.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2015, 07:59:30 PM »

No redraws. No rebounds. As a region, we are constantly engaged, and we are constantly active. As governor, it is my duty to make sure that it is maintained, and any fusion with the bulk of any region will destroy our culture of activity and equality.

The Northeast answers to no one.

Sawx speaks for us all.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2015, 09:39:47 PM »


In theory, perhaps, but its not going to happen in the present political climate. The immediate problem is reviving the Midwest and the Pacific. If we can accomplish that, even impermanently, with a four-region map, it's better than nothing.

To those shouting "three Regions or bust": would you really rather allow the Pacific and the Midwest to entirely collapse than accept an imperfect solution?
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