Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Not so fast kids. Two of your side should've had to recuse. Traditional Marriage and the rights of the states win 4-3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymPpIzaanhY

cc. Wulfric

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

The bigot thinks because the Notorious RBG and Kagan officiated same sex marriages in the past, they needed to recuse themselves.

I know JCL lives in his own world, but to think that a justice can only rule one time on an issue is a little bit asinine to put it nicely. 

It's a large degree of shock for him. He truly believed that he and the other bigots would win and be able to force their misguided religious convictions down everybody's throats.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Drop the ban hammer Badger. Expunge this troll from the Atlas.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

A ban is in order. Obvious trolling is unacceptable.

You just don't want someone with different views than you to be able to speak.

Should we allow an open advocate for the slavery of blacks on this forum? Forced child labor? Explicit advocacy for the repression of women?

No, because society evolves, and some views are abhorrent and have no place in the market place of ideas. But this probably doesn't even matter to you, because you're a troll.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Should we allow an open advocate for the slavery of blacks on this forum? Forced child labor? Explicit advocacy for the repression of women?

Because that's totally the same thing?

You are denying a minority in society the ability to fully self-actualize by forbidding them from accessing rights that are central to our society. That is philosophically consistent with the above.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Should we allow an open advocate for the slavery of blacks on this forum? Forced child labor? Explicit advocacy for the repression of women?

No, because society evolves, and some views are abhorrent and have no place in the market place of ideas. But this probably doesn't even matter to you, because you're a troll.

Are you seriously advocating banning people who disagree with you on gay marriage? Why do "progressives" like you get to determine what has a place in the marketplace of ideas.  There is nothing "progressive" about censorship.

Society evolves, and denying rights, marginalizing, or repressing minorities is unacceptable; especially when these arguments evolve out of antiquated and misinterpreted religious texts from the Iron age, and many of its adherents have been conditioned not to question the dogma. Secular arguments against marriage as an institution (under which gay marriage falls under) in general are fine, as we are a secular society. Religious arguments have no place, and that is what this debate has always been about.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Should we allow an open advocate for the slavery of blacks on this forum? Forced child labor? Explicit advocacy for the repression of women?

No, because society evolves, and some views are abhorrent and have no place in the market place of ideas. But this probably doesn't even matter to you, because you're a troll.

Are you seriously advocating banning people who disagree with you on gay marriage? Why do "progressives" like you get to determine what has a place in the marketplace of ideas.  There is nothing "progressive" about censorship.

Society evolves, and denying rights, marginalizing, or repressing minorities is unacceptable; especially when these arguments evolve out of antiquated and misinterpreted religious texts from the Iron age, and many of its adherents have been conditioned not to question the dogma. Secular arguments against marriage as an institution (under which gay marriage falls under) in general are fine, as we are a secular society. Religious arguments have no place, and that is what this debate has always been about.

Fortunately, we still have a First Amendment that guarantees freedom of religion - at least for now.  Intolerant "progressives" like yourself, though, would like to get rid of that and force religions to tow the new bigoted, intolerant "secular" official state religion.  No thanks.

Straw man arguments don't do us blue avatars any good.

What straw man argument?  Nagas all but said that people who oppose gay marriage should be banned from expressing that view and specifically said "Religious arguments have no place".

Once again: should we allow open advocacy of slavery on the forum? After all, it does fall under biblical purview.

And again, religious arguments have no place in the framing and the creation of laws for a secular society (hint, hint. that's what we are!). Funny thing about that first amendment that you mentioned: not only is a freedom to practice your religion (within certain boundaries), it also gives the population writ large protection from it as well. Your church doesn't have to officiate gay marriages, but it cannot deny society at large. 

Moreover, you seem pretty quick to throw the "intolerant" label at the progressives on this forum. I wonder, is this a reaction from being called out intolerant views that you hold? And let me makes this abundantly clear before you activate your persecution complex again: this is not an attack on all of your views, or for rocking a blue avatar, but for situations where you advocate the denial of minority rights based on your personal religious views.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Many of us are bullied by LGBT leftists. Just ask Baronelle Stutzman who had to shut down her business. Does "it get better" for her ?

she absolutely did not have to shut down her business. what are you even talking about?

She was given the choice of providing flowers to same-sex marriages

exactly.

Yes, that's right you always have a choice.  Your livelihood or your moral identity.  Why would anyone complain, they at least get one or the other?   They should just be grateful they aren't stripped of their capacity for free will altogether.

The US government just keeps trampling on the ability of good old Christian store owners to self-actualize. First in 1964, when they had to start serving those dirty negroes, and now in 2015, where they have to serve those vile gays.