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DavidB.
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« on: August 28, 2016, 05:20:41 PM »


Why did the Liberals become so much more popular at the end of 2015? I know Turnbull replaced Abbott, but there must have been other reasons, right?
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DavidB.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 06:33:06 AM »
« Edited: August 29, 2016, 06:37:26 AM by DavidB. »

That's not necessarily good, unfortunately...


Seems like a vote may well lead to a negative outcome since Turnbull may not allow a free vote.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 10:20:41 AM »

I don't like it, but I would be interested to see the resulting map.
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I'm utterly opposed to a civil right being granted to a minority based on the good will of a majority vote (even then you've got a batch of the Liberal right who won't vote for even IF the plebiscite passes... I imagine even afterwards you'll end up with people saying "well 57% isn't that big of an endorsement... who'll speak for the 43%" etc etc). It's a disgusting, expensive, dangerous and unnecessary process, but Malcolm Turnbull's complete lack of a spine or being willing to stick to what should be core Liberal principles means this probably is the only path that will give them legitimate cover this term.  
I am always opposed to referenda on SSM for the exact same reasons as you, but if it turns out to be the only way in which it can be implemented during this term, then I guess the referendum should happen. Not a good move strategically on the ALP and the Greens to oppose it, even if I totally understand why they did so and sympathize with these reasons.
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DavidB.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 11:35:30 AM »

As a gay man I would rather wait 3 more years for marriage equality than suffer a plebiscite.
Who says the ALP will win in 2019?
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