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« on: July 01, 2015, 10:10:10 AM »
« edited: July 01, 2015, 08:49:01 PM by Mr. Morden »

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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2015, 10:25:31 AM »

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Suck it Sanders supporters.

But you have to remember that HRC is the candidate of the BIG BANKS :-P
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2015, 10:25:53 AM »
« Edited: July 01, 2015, 10:29:37 AM by Gallium »

This beats Obama's 2011 haul as the record for a candidate's opening quarter.

Also a big improvement on the $26 million she first raised in 2007 (only $19 million of which was primary money)
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 10:31:18 AM »

You guys are cheering for Hillary for raising millions when (supposedly) y'all want to get money out of politics?
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 10:33:38 AM »

You guys are cheering for Hillary for raising millions when (supposedly) y'all want to get money out of politics?

You can't unilaterally disarm and expect the outcome you want.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2015, 10:35:46 AM »

You guys are cheering for Hillary when (supposedly) y'all want to get money out of politics?

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2015, 10:53:07 AM »

well since 91% were less than £100 so it's hardly the Koch Brothers
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2015, 10:57:43 AM »

You guys are cheering for Hillary for raising millions when (supposedly) y'all want to get money out of politics?

Hillary Clinton supports a Constitutional Amendment abrogating Citizens United and would nominate judges who would overturn it.  She would also sign campaign finance legislation to help get money out of politics.

But, you can't do any of that if you don't win.  It makes no sense to deliberately handicap yourself for the sake of ideological purity when that ideological purity would help ensure your ideas are marginalized and our democracy is further corrupted.

Republicans and the Koch Brothers support Citizens United and want no limits on buying political influence with campaign donations.  Huge difference.  Huge!
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2015, 11:21:48 AM »

You guys are cheering for Hillary for raising millions when (supposedly) y'all want to get money out of politics?

You can't unilaterally disarm and expect the outcome you want.

I'm sure that's exactly what the Koch brothers would say.

The Koch brothers would not say they want Citizens United overturned.
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2015, 11:59:40 AM »


Roll Eyes

Because you need 100 Mio. $+ to compete for IA, NH, SC and NV ... lol.

All this money won't help Hilldog if she cannot win the hearts of people.

Trying to win these 4 small states with 100 Mio. $ is like trying to shoot a fly with a bazooka.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2015, 01:15:08 PM »

Is this just her official campaign, or her super PAC as well? Theoretically, if it's just her campaign, it's not exactly a horrific example of campaign fundraising abuse.
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2015, 03:13:01 PM »

Just happy that Goldman Sachs had a good quarter too.
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2015, 08:50:16 PM »

$8.3 million raised by Carson for the quarter:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/01/ben-carson-raised-8-3-million-in-2nd-quarter/

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2015, 11:18:26 PM »

For comparison, here are the #s from the 2nd quarter of 2011:

Here are the complete fundraising numbers for Q2, according to the FEC:

RAISED

18.383.257 $   Romney
  4.518.948 $   Paul
  4.335.695 $   Pawlenty
  3.639.723 $   Bachmann
  2.580.726 $   Cain
  2.102.916 $   Gingrich
     582.348 $   Santorum
     180.237 $   Johnson
     136.875 $   McCotter (House)

CASH ON HAND

12.715.495 $   Romney
  3.379.067 $   Bachmann (+ 265.639 $ cash on hand in her House committee)
  2.966.177 $   Paul (+ 1.556.057 $ cash on hand in his House committee)
  2.001.090 $   Pawlenty
     481.895 $   Cain
     322.222 $   Gingrich
     521.036 $   McCotter (House)
     229.115 $   Santorum
         6.007 $   Johnson

I didn't find anything about Jon Huntsman, neither his candidate committee, nor his Horizon PAC.

Obama for America:

RAISED

46.323.209 $

CASH ON HAND

37.110.346 $

Obama Victory Fund 2012 (DNC Money)Sad

RAISED

39.259.886 $

CASH ON HAND

1.694.278 $
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2015, 11:30:33 PM »

Separate from her actual campaign, the pro-Clinton Super PACs will report having raised over $20 million for the year so far:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/soros-helps-pro-clinton-super-pacs-to-20-million-haul-119669.html

Also, no total number from Sanders yet, but he reportedly raised ~$8 million online:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/bernie-sanders-fundraiser-clinton-poll/
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2015, 11:35:07 PM »

The Super PACs are going to be a bigger factor this time, especially on the GOP side. Bush has outsourced a lot of his campaign to his super pac
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/409837aa09ee405493ad64a94b8c2c3d/bush-preparing-delegate-many-campaign-tasks-super-pac

The reason he waited to get in was to spend the year raising money for the super pac
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2015, 11:54:00 PM »

Roll Eyes

Because you need 100 Mio. $+ to compete for IA, NH, SC and NV ... lol.

All this money won't help Hilldog if she cannot win the hearts of people.

Trying to win these 4 small states with 100 Mio. $ is like trying to shoot a fly with a bazooka.

Most of New Hampshire is in the Boston TV market, which is expensive and inefficient to buy.  Plus, national campaigns cost money.  And if things drag on past the first 4 states, it gets a lot more expensive.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2015, 11:57:20 PM »

I'm impressed that 91% of donations were under $100, a testament to the fact that the people support Hillary!
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2015, 12:22:19 AM »

Something isn't adding up right here. The maximum donation to a primary campaign is $2700.

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2015, 12:31:09 AM »

You're right.  The math doesn't work.  If the limit is $2700 per person, then the number her campaign is giving for % of donors under $100 is impossible.

Even if she's raising general election $ in a separate account, and counting that in the $45 million, the math still doesn't work.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2015, 12:39:07 AM »

I think the issue with the math is the 50,000 number.  What is your source for that?  Because this says:

http://www.krgv.com/campaign-clinton-raised-over-45-million/33902614

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That makes it sound like 50,000 was the target number of donations over a short interval of time, not the whole quarter.  She would have to have well north of 100,000 donors total for the other numbers to work.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2015, 12:41:16 AM »

Based on the online donations until Mid-June, Sanders likely raised between 10-15 Mio. $ for the quarter alltogether.

That's likely more than almost all Republicans and that's pretty good considering that his campaign only started in May.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2015, 12:53:49 AM »

Sanders raised $8 million online from 200,000 donors. Probably more than 91% gave less than $100.
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2015, 01:03:40 AM »

In Q2 2011 Obama raised $47M (about the same as Clinton's Q2 2015). Obama's came from "more than 552,000 donors" with "98 percent of contributions to the campaign were below the $250 threshold." I would bet that the numbers for Hillary are similar.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2015, 01:18:01 AM »

I think the issue with the math is the 50,000 number.  What is your source for that?  Because this says:

http://www.krgv.com/campaign-clinton-raised-over-45-million/33902614

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That makes it sound like 50,000 was the target number of donations over a short interval of time, not the whole quarter.  She would have to have well north of 100,000 donors total for the other numbers to work.


1) 91% of donations isn't the same thing as 91% of donors.  A donor can make multiple donations. 
2) The 50,000 donations number seems a bit low for the first quarter run of the Democratic front-runner.  Especially if Sanders had 200,000.  It's probably 500,000 donations, not 50,000.  That figure could be of donors instead of donations, too.  Media reporting is often sloppy.
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