Opinion of Eurofederalism

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I'm definitely for in theory, as opposed to the dreadful moderate hero compromise we have at the moment... (This is ignoring the status of peripheral countries like the UK and Sweden for the moment.)

[Antonio the Sixth]

The only political project that could have saved Europe from its near-inevitable decline and eventual fall into economic, social and cultural decrepitude.

Of course, it's completely dead and buried at this point. It might take another 50-100 years for it to reemerge, but it will probably be too late by then.

[Blair]

The communist in me says that nationalism was what held Europe back after WW2. Whether it was De Gaulle in 1965 giving the British the finger, Major's European rebels or whatever nationalistic rubbish it's clear that Europe has great potenial as a superpower, within a massive federal state.

[TNF]

An impossibility under capitalism, as the Eurozone crisis illustrates pretty well. There are two possible futures for Europe at this point: renewed imperialist rivalries in the wake of a total collapse of the European Union leading to total devastation of the continent, or the establishment of a socialist United States of Europe.

[H. Ross Peron]

An impossibility under capitalism, as the Eurozone crisis illustrates pretty well. There are two possible futures for Europe at this point: renewed imperialist rivalries in the wake of a total collapse of the European Union leading to total devastation of the continent, or the establishment of a socialist United States of Europe.

I highly doubt that say Germany and France are going to go to war with each other even with a complete meltdown of the EU: NATO would still exist and two generations of cultural and economic integration aren't going to be reversed.

That said, I'll join chorus about the need for Eurofederalism after World War 2 and colonialism. Possibly the United States should have pushed for an integrated Western bloc as a whole rather than just a federal Europe.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

A delusional dream that never had a chance of becoming reality. Look at the way the EU (under whatever name) operates and has always operated: the interests of individual nation states (as defined by the government of the day in each country in question, of course) has always come first. European co-operation - which alas is currently very poorly administered - is a completely different matter.

[PJ]

A nice idea that doesn't seem likely at this point. A currency union should not have been attempted until Europe was consolidated into an actual state with the mandate to implement it.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

My contemt for it should be pretty known at this point, as I've clashed with Antonio over it quite a few times on here.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

A delusional dream that never had a chance of becoming reality

[SNJ1985]

I don't support any kind of supranational political union. I am for total national sovereignty.

[Orser67]

I think it's the best way to continue to promote peace and democracy in Europe.

But I also think they made some errors by going too fast in some ways (monetary union) and too slow in others (the European Parliament should be more powerful and visible).