Current status of SSM in the holdout states (MAP)

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Next update is August 21st.

[Skill and Chance]

Down to 20 holdout and 2 unknown now. Alabama has 12 holdouts, Kentucky and Texas each have 4. One county in both of the later states have joined.

Combined, the remaining states make up 0.13% of the population.


Come on Alabama, it's been over a month now.

Absent the national guard forcing every county office to comply, there will be at least 1 holdout county in AL for all of time. Even hundreds of years from now, there will still be at least 1 holdout county in AL. I'm completely serious.

There's a very good chance AL will be majority-black in 100 years.  If that's the case, it would be one of the most progressive places in the country on civil rights issues come the 22nd century.

[The Free North]

Down to 20 holdout and 2 unknown now. Alabama has 12 holdouts, Kentucky and Texas each have 4. One county in both of the later states have joined.

Combined, the remaining states make up 0.13% of the population.


Come on Alabama, it's been over a month now.

Absent the national guard forcing every county office to comply, there will be at least 1 holdout county in AL for all of time. Even hundreds of years from now, there will still be at least 1 holdout county in AL. I'm completely serious.

There's a very good chance AL will be majority-black in 100 years.  If that's the case, it would be one of the most progressive places in the country on civil rights issues come the 22nd century.

You vastly overestimate the social liberalism of Southern blacks.....

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

After two weeks, we have an update: 17 holdout and 1 unknown. The one Unknown is Knott, Kentucky.

Seriously Alabama. It's been nearly two months now.

[Gass3268]

Why isn't this woman fired or in jail yet?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why isn't this woman fired or in jail yet?

She's an elected official, not an employee so she can't be fired, only impeached or voted out of office.

[Gass3268]

Why isn't this woman fired or in jail yet?

She's an elected official, not an employee so she can't be fired, only impeached or voted out of office.

Contempt of court?

[SteveRogers]

Why isn't this woman fired or in jail yet?

She's an elected official, not an employee so she can't be fired, only impeached or voted out of office.

Contempt of court?

Looks like that's what's in store for her. The updated story says that the lawyers representing the couples seeking marriage licenses have filed a motion to have her held in contempt of court. For now they're seeking fines, not incarceration. Unfortunately, even if she ultimately ends up jailed for contempt the federal court can't remove her from office. If possible the state legislature should act to impeach her immediately since this woman clearly has no interest in performing the duties of her elected office.

[Slander and/or Libel]

You just know she winds up with a sweetheart gig as the poster child for the government persecuting Christians. She'll be on the speaking circuit and probably churn out a column or two every month for a couple of crazy websites, and she'll wind up financially much better off than she was before.

[Joe Republic]

[Gass3268]

Federal judge orders Kentucky clerk and her staff to court

[DemPGH]

Can't someone simply just overrule this ideologue and issue the licenses? I saw that someone affiliated with her said that SS couples can just go to another county, and I thought that was utterly preposterous. So then this woman can use her religious beliefs to blatantly defy the Constitution and deny people their rights? She has no idea what can of worms she is trying in futility to open.

[pbrower2a]

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http://www.wdrb.com/story/29927097/supreme-court-rejects-ky-gay-marriage-case-forcing-rowan-co-clerk-to-issue-licenses

There is no local option on SSM in Kentucky anymore. 

[7,052,770]

That woman's going to wind up a millionaire, just like that sh**tty pizza joint in Indiana. Bravo to her for figuring out a way to change social classes.

[politicus]

After two weeks, we have an update: 17 holdout and 1 unknown. The one Unknown is Knott, Kentucky.

Seriously Alabama. It's been nearly two months now.

Do you have the names of the 17 holdouts?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

GOP Presidential Candidates' positions on this (only a few have actually said something):

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http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/09/kentucky-clerks-defiance-is-a-test-for-gop-rivals/

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

After two weeks, we have an update: 17 holdout and 1 unknown. The one Unknown is Knott, Kentucky.

Seriously Alabama. It's been nearly two months now.

Do you have the names of the 17 holdouts?

Yes. Tomorrow the list will be updated though.

Alabama: Autauga, Bibb, Chambers, Choctaw, Clarke, Cleburne, Covington, Geneva, Marengo, Pike, and Washington

Kentucky: Rowan, Clinton, and Whitley

Texas: Loving, Mills, and Irion

[Figueira]

Down to 20 holdout and 2 unknown now. Alabama has 12 holdouts, Kentucky and Texas each have 4. One county in both of the later states have joined.

Combined, the remaining states make up 0.13% of the population.


Come on Alabama, it's been over a month now.

Absent the national guard forcing every county office to comply, there will be at least 1 holdout county in AL for all of time. Even hundreds of years from now, there will still be at least 1 holdout county in AL. I'm completely serious.

There's a very good chance AL will be majority-black in 100 years.  If that's the case, it would be one of the most progressive places in the country on civil rights issues come the 22nd century.

You vastly overestimate the social liberalism of Southern blacks.....

You're all overestimating the extent to which homophobia will be tolerated in the future, even in places like Alabama.

[Gass3268]

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[SteveRogers]

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Well that escalated quickly. But yeah, this was the inevitable and appropriate result. That being said, facebook is going to be unbearable for the next week, isn't it?

[7,052,770]

I assume she'll also be released if she resigns, is impeached,  or her term expires?

I bet she stays in as long as possible to make a point.

[SteveRogers]

I assume she'll also be released if she resigns, is impeached,  or her term expires?

I bet she stays in as long as possible to make a point.

Yeah, they have to release her if she resigns or is removed as at that point it would become impossible for her to carry out the court order.

[Bojack Horseman]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html?_r=0

Kim Davis has been thrown in jail. Take that, fundies! How do you like them apples?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

This is fycked up.  They can't fire her for not doing this but they can jail her?

The world is oh so much safer I'm sure with her behind bars.   

[SteveRogers]

This is fycked up.  They can't fire her for not doing this but they can jail her?

The world is oh so much safer I'm sure with her behind bars.   

What would you have the court do instead to enforce its order? She has the keys to her own release. All she has to do is either agree to comply or resign her position, and she's free to go.