Sex work

[WVdemocrat]

I'd just like to bump this thread to say: Famous Mortimer, you were right. I've changed my position. My position before was "paternalistic" and "moralistic grandstanding" as you so eloquently put it. Legalization, which could ensure higher standards of living for sex workers and devastate the human trafficking black market, is the way to go.

So yeah, I just wanted to add that.

wut?

My position - it has changed.

[Marokai Backbeat]

If that's actually sincere, then I commend you for being open-minded.

[WVdemocrat]

If that's actually sincere, then I commend you for being open-minded.

It is. After really thinking about it, I was wrong and my argument was patronizing.

[Famous Mortimer]

Honestly, what made you change? Was it getting a lecture from a college age woman?

[WVdemocrat]

Honestly, what made you change? Was it getting a lecture from a college age woman?

I was looking back through this thread and reading the language I used, and the arguments I used. The word you used, "paternalistic," really captures what I think my whole argument was. Looking back, I wasn't interested in having a pragmatic discussion about what would solve the problem (which I would say is human trafficking and abuse in sex work), but rather I wanted to dominate the moral high ground.

In theory, there is nothing wrong with prostitution. What is wrong is exploitation and abuse, which would be best combated by legalization.

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But would it though? People like to say "legalisation" like its some kind of magic pixie dust that solves all ills. I mean should we stop and look at evidence? NO LEGALISE YOU FOOL, LEGALISDLIEGALISELEGALISEANDREGULATE

[WVdemocrat]

But would it though? People like to say "legalisation" like its some kind of magic pixie dust that solves all ills. I mean should we stop and look at evidence? NO LEGALISE YOU FOOL, LEGALISDLIEGALISELEGALISEANDREGULATE

CrabCake, you know I'm not blindly saying "LEGALIZEANDREGULATE!!" It's taken me time and thought to reform my stance on this. You support decriminalization, correct? What does that solve that legalization would not solve?

[Why]

Sex should only occur between a man and his wife. All other sex is immorality. So sex work/prostitution or whatever you want to call this gross immorality should be illegal.

[Intell]

Well, I don't like sex work, but we need to legalize, restrict and regulate the sex industry, and make sure that everything going on between the prostitute and the costumer is fair, and not abuse is having towards these women.

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But would it though? People like to say "legalisation" like its some kind of magic pixie dust that solves all ills. I mean should we stop and look at evidence? NO LEGALISE YOU FOOL, LEGALISDLIEGALISELEGALISEANDREGULATE

CrabCake, you know I'm not blindly saying "LEGALIZEANDREGULATE!!" It's taken me time and thought to reform my stance on this. You support decriminalization, correct? What does that solve that legalization would not solve?

I support what the evidence supports; and the evidence is inconclusive. People adopt this legalise mantra in a very rash, unscientific manner, and that worries me.

[Why]

Sex should only occur between a man and his wife. All other sex is immorality. So sex work/prostitution or whatever you want to call this gross immorality should be illegal.

How boring you must be to have sex with. MISSIONARY ACCOMPLISHED!

I reported your personal attack but it appears nothing is going to be done. My ability in the sack is completely irrelevant to this conversation or my life as I am not married and have never had sex. So shut up about me and talk about the issue.

[SNJ1985]

Sex should only occur between a man and his wife. All other sex is immorality. So sex work/prostitution or whatever you want to call this gross immorality should be illegal.

Agreed.

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Sex should only occur between a man and his wife. All other sex is immorality. So sex work/prostitution or whatever you want to call this gross immorality should be illegal.

Agreed.

Silly gooses.

[Bigby]

Sex should only occur between a man and his wife. All other sex is immorality. So sex work/prostitution or whatever you want to call this gross immorality should be illegal.

Agreed.

You guys must totally be fun at parties.

[DavidB.]

Sex should only occur between a man and his wife. All other sex is immorality. So sex work/prostitution or whatever you want to call this gross immorality should be illegal.

Despite the use of the word "so", this last sentence does still not logically follow the first sentences.

Even if one thinks sex outside marriage is immoral, then banning prostitution isn't necessarily the way to go.

But would it though? People like to say "legalisation" like its some kind of magic pixie dust that solves all ills. I mean should we stop and look at evidence? NO LEGALISE YOU FOOL, LEGALISDLIEGALISELEGALISEANDREGULATE

What do you think of my idea, which I outlined on page 7 of this thread?