Pataki for Senate in 2018?

[Suburbia]

Can George Pataki win a Senate race or at least make it competitive against Kirsten Gillibrand?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

He might be able to get 45% or so, but he'd never actually win.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No, 2000, was the only chance Guiliani had for Senate seat, he dropped out.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

No, 2000, was the only chance Guiliani had for Senate seat, he dropped out.

This thread is about Pataki, and Pataki only. Giuliani /=/ Pataki.

[Torie]

No. Beyond all the obvious things, Gillibrand is actually a quite pleasant person - a rather unusual characteristic for NY politicians, who have perfected the art of sharp elbows into museum quality exhibits.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Pataki is a moderate Gov GoP, but Gillibrand will keep her seat.

[Indy Texas]

Wall Street loves Gillibrand, so where is the impetus for a decent Republican candidate to run for her seat? Cranky Eye-talian suburbanites on Long Island?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

No, 2000, was the only chance Guiliani had for Senate seat, he dropped out.

This thread is about Pataki, and Pataki only. Giuliani /=/ Pataki.

He must have gotten his unelectable, irrelevant Republican has-beens from New York confused.  It's an easy mistake

[Mr. Smith]

No, 2000, was the only chance Guiliani had for Senate seat, he dropped out.

This thread is about Pataki, and Pataki only. Giuliani /=/ Pataki.

He must have gotten his unelectable, irrelevant Republican has-beens from New York confused.  It's an easy mistake

They both end in "i", that makes it even worse.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

No, 2000, was the only chance Guiliani had for Senate seat, he dropped out.

This thread is about Pataki, and Pataki only. Giuliani /=/ Pataki.

He must have gotten his unelectable, irrelevant Republican has-beens from New York confused.  It's an easy mistake

They both end in "i", that makes it even worse.

At this point, I feel like they might as well be the same person for all it matters.

[Miles]

I doubt he would have been able to beat her even in 2010.

[bballrox4717]

Gillibrand is NY's most popular politician. There's no way any Republican would come within 20 points behind her, even in a Republican wave.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Gillibrand is NY's most popular politician. There's no way any Republican would come within 20 points behind her, even in a Republican wave.

As of May, Chuck Schumer has that title:

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http://maristpoll.marist.edu/tag/kirsten-gillibrand/

[okierepublican]

No. Any non crazy, non openly corrupt democrat incumbent can win easily in New York in the senate.

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If by competitive, you mean lose by 20 points, then maybe.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

If by competitive, you mean lose by 20 points, then maybe.

No, I'd like to see something more impressive than that for the NYGOP this time. Astorino only lost to Cuomo by 14 points, and that's the benchmark to beat for 2018.

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If by competitive, you mean lose by 20 points, then maybe.

No, I'd like to see something more impressive than that for the NYGOP this time. Astorino only lost to Cuomo by 14 points, and that's the benchmark to beat for 2018.

Cuomo had a divisive primary, and a significant Green party challenger because he's pissed of the base. The base has no particular reason to dislike Gillibrand. She's remarkably anti-Wall Street for a statewide elected New York politician.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Not only that, he had problems with the state legislature over his amendatory veto. And Gillibrand is a legislator too, and he wanted more exective authority and wanted the legislature to cede more power.

The voters looked down on that and sided with legislature on that issue over Pataki.

[CountryClassSF]

Can George Pataki win a Senate race or at least make it competitive against Kirsten Gillibrand?

No. Gillibrand approval is way too high, and Pataki left office with a low rating.

[ElectionsGuy]

Nope, he would just be wasting time and money.

[Progressive]

Only if Gillibrand steps down to run for Gov in 2018, which is being talked about, does Pataki or a GOP have a chance at the Senate from NY.

[RINO Tom]

Only if Gillibrand steps down to run for Gov in 2018, which is being talked about, does Pataki or a GOP have a chance at the Senate from NY.

Even then, I doubt it.  It seems the Obama era has ushered in voting patterns where certain states (Utah, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc. on the GOP side, New York, California, Hawaii, etc. on the Dem side) simply have enough people who think "Vote D" or "Vote R" on election day to the point where they'll be electing only that party's politicians to go to DC for the foreseeable future.  I think it's sad, but then again I'm a moderate hero.

[Thunderbird is the word]

Nobody can beat Gilliband. The only way a Republican could have a remote chance of winning statewide office in New York is by picking off probably 35-40% of the city vote while at the same time holding onto upstate. Since Gilliband is from upstate already and popular there and in the city no Republican has a snowballs chance in hell against her.

[andrew_c]

No. Gillibrand is from outside NYC, so she can attract many votes upstate in addition to a large base in NYC, which is anti-GOP. Unless Pataki can run up margins upstate, he has no chance. Besides that, Pataki is well past his prime.

[136or142]

Pataki would be 73 or 75 by 2018.  He's no Ted Strickland.