Aside from Griffin, Yankee, and Windjammer...

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Atlasia needs to die off, but the people doing it right now for their own glory isn't the answer. All it is is showing us how sh*tty the game can be for everyone. I've never been so disgusted with this game as I am right now.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Atlasia needs to die off, but the people doing it right now for their own glory isn't the answer. All it is is showing us how sh*tty the game can be for everyone. I've never been so disgusted with this game as I am right now.

No one is doing that though, Duke.

I think what happened with The Party is a pretty clear indication of people vying to be those who shape the future of this game and seek to gain the most from it. Instead of having a discussion with everyone, a new political party was formed by gutting another. It's a classic tactic, just not one I thought my "friends" would ever do to me.

And if that's how you all think this game will be saved, well, good luck with that.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

It's pretty clear that this game is not working as the old times.
But, at least for me, killing it is not the solution. A lot of things needs to be changed. The Constitution needs to be changed. The Senate tried to change it with various amendements, that were rejected by the Senate itself or by the regions.
Now there aren't excuses. It's time to change the Constitution and... I don't want to be repetitive, but the only way is a Constitutional Convention. I know that in the past there was a ConCon that, according to most of you, has not worked well, but I'm sure that this time would be different.
The number of regions needs to be changed. A ConCon can do it, inserting new clauses in the Constitution that allows to change boundaries or, as I'd prefer, with the Constitution selecting the new regions map and insert it in the Constitution (it would require short time than the first idea).
A ConCon would change our legislative system. A ConCon would change the election sytem. A ConCon would change the relationship between federal and regional governments.
This is the last call. We can do something now or we can let this game die.

The problem is we need to identify what's actually broken-we can't go to a concon with no idea what we're actually going to fix

- Number of regions --> the current number is enough. There are difficulties to fill regional legislatures.
- Legislative sytem (Senate, also bicameralism can be discussed) --> a reduction of number of regions would lead to a change in the Senate. We can discuss about At-Large seats and why not about bicameralism.
- Elections system --> At-Large elections (expecially elections for 5 seats) are not working.
- Relationship between regions and fed govt, powers denied to regions.

These are the fundamental things, IMHO, and I'm sure that changes on these thing would be important and fundamental. But I'm sure there will be debates about the Cabinet, impeachment and other things.

I proposed many of those things in a memorandum in October 2013. I nearly was primaried by my own party (at the time) in favor of a troll candidate because I dared to support overhauling Atlasia because, as many said, "regions are fine, they're fine now and will continue to be fine in the future. I won't vote for Duke because he's in bed with Liebor and they just want to ruin the game." The memo is still online. Anyone can go read it.

All of those things are decent ideas, and I applaud that you're proposing something concrete, since no one else has done so.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I also do not want the game to dissolve. I would like to reform the electoral system, but none of us can agree on anything in that department. I'd imagine the same thing for shifting the regions.

I've said this before, 15 years ago I was a member of a flourishing government sim that also pulled the plug. It ended up killing the game. I'd imagine the same thing would happen here.

I support revival yes, but not a re-birth.

And there enlies the problem. There has to be almost universal agreement to change anything. Merely dissolving Atlasia does nothing unless we have direction after that, and right now Cris is the only one that has come forward with some concrete plan.