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« on: July 08, 2015, 07:55:14 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jeb-bush-people-work-longer-hours/story?id=32313997

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Seriously, is he even trying? I can't think of a worse establishment candidate. I would never have voted for him before this, but this is really just pushing me into the Vote Hillary camp just to stop this crazy man. The GOP is just disgusting at the moment. I didn't think it got worse than Romney.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2015, 08:00:52 PM »

People should only work longer hours if there are no other alternative, if the unemployment rate in the given sector is close to 0%. In all other sectors however, work hours should as a general rule be cut, so that more people could get into the work force, People who work part time could finally work full time and people would have to work less overtime. In almost all countries in the world, there is excessive unemployment, so the best solution would probably be to slightly cut work hours (with half an hour, not with two hours as socialists want).
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2015, 08:03:35 PM »

Jeb Bush has always been obsessed with making money.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2015, 09:01:08 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2015, 09:06:10 PM by dudeabides »

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jeb-bush-people-work-longer-hours/story?id=32313997

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Seriously, is he even trying? I can't think of a worse establishment candidate. I would never have voted for him before this, but this is really just pushing me into the Vote Hillary camp just to stop this crazy man. The GOP is just disgusting at the moment. I didn't think it got worse than Romney.

Are you serious? He's saying we need to be more productive and we need to work more hours because this is a part-time economy. People have to get back to working 40 hours instead of 25 hours. That's what he's saying.

This headline is more proof the media fears Jeb Bush because they know he can win.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2015, 09:06:28 PM »

Things not to say when you're a slacker who was born rich.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2015, 09:08:38 PM »

Bush is Romney only 10x worst
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2015, 09:12:15 PM »


How? Do you have one single proof?

It seems like people actually like Jeb, yet I've never met a single person who actually liked Mitt before he was crowned in early 2012.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2015, 09:12:53 PM »

Things not to say when you're a slacker who was born rich.

Again, he was saying that people should be working full time because under Obama, we have a part-time economy.

Secondly, Jeb Bush is someone who was born rich, but who didn't simply rely on his family fortune for all that he has been able to accomplish. He went into real estate and started a business, he built that business into the largest commercial real estate firm in south Florida. He then went on to serve as Florida's Secretary of Commerce and later, he helped start a charter school. As Governor, he pursued a conservative agenda that reduced taxes, protected rights, reformed state government, and challenged the status-quo in education. To call Jeb Bush a slacker is both inaccurate and unnecessary.


I like Mitt Romney, but Jeb Bush is more conservative and more electable.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2015, 09:16:23 PM »

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Seriously, is he even trying? I can't think of a worse establishment candidate. I would never have voted for him before this, but this is really just pushing me into the Vote Hillary camp just to stop this crazy man. The GOP is just disgusting at the moment. I didn't think it got worse than Romney.

Are you serious? He's saying we need to be more productive and we need to work more hours because this is a part-time economy. People have to get back to working 40 hours instead of 25 hours. That's what he's saying.

This headline is more proof the media fears Jeb Bush because they know he can win.

People aren't working more because of the greed of the investor class, which has shipped jobs overseas where folks work 50-60 hours a week for poverty wages.  Less-than-subsistance wages.  Jeb's got some crust, eh?  This is got to be the most out of touch statement I've heard a politician make.  And I'm saying this as I work my 2nd job because my main job (which requires a 4 year college degree) isn't enough when my spouse isn't making $10/hour with no benefits.

Let me also share with Jebby-Poo that it took me some time to find my 2nd job to work more hours.  I had to make sure that it didn't conflict with my first 40 hours of primary work, and that's the burden lots of people DO face who are working 2 part-time jobs; how to make sure one doesn't conflict with the other.  

That's the thing about the Bushes that irritate me no end; they have no idea how the average person lives.  None of them have ever had to put off making a major family purchase until they were on sounder financial footing.  None of them have ever had to choose between keeping the car running and dental care for themselves or their kids.  None of them have had to settle for a half-wit doctor and something other than the best possible Rx for an illness because their doctor was "the guy on the plan" and the insurance company wouldn't allow for the newest antibiotic.  They also never had to go back to a doctor to tell them that the antibiotic they were just prescribed (that was pushed by the saleswoman in the "power suit" with that "samples" briefcase) cost over $100.00 that they didn't have and could Dr. Soandso give them a Rx for amoxycillin or something cheaper.  They know nothing about this.  So when Bush 41 professed his love for pork rinds, or Bush 43 tried to act like a regular rancher dude, and not some legacy propped up by his rich Daddy in everything he ever tried, I get nauseous in a particular way.  The Bushes make it easy for me to vote Democratic, even given my social conservatism.  Jebby just took the cake, however.  This is clueless at new levels.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2015, 09:20:36 PM »


How? Do you have one single proof?

It seems like people actually like Jeb, yet I've never met a single person who actually liked Mitt before he was crowned in early 2012.

The people outside of the Republican core who like Jeb Bush only "like" him because when standing next to all of the other bat-sh*t crazy Republican candidates, he looks positively sane on social issues. Within the Republican core, he has virtually no support. Nobody is enthusiastically screaming, "Jeb! Jeb! Jeb!": the 15% or so that make him their first pick are doing so because of "electability" and because they believe he'll be best for their bottom line. They're not supporting him out of excitement or because they personally like him.
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2015, 09:23:43 PM »


How? Do you have one single proof?

It seems like people actually like Jeb, yet I've never met a single person who actually liked Mitt before he was crowned in early 2012.

The people outside of the Republican core who like Jeb Bush only "like" him because when standing next to all of the other bat-sh*t crazy Republican candidates, he looks positively sane on social issues. Within the Republican core, he has virtually no support. Nobody is enthusiastically screaming, "Jeb! Jeb! Jeb!": the 15% or so that make him their first pick are doing so because of "electability" and because they believe he'll be best for their bottom line. They're not supporting him out of excitement or because they personally like him.

I may agree with this, yet this is good enough for me though. cause what we're forgetting are the 40% of American adults who consider themselves independent.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2015, 09:28:07 PM »

Telling people they should be working more sounds like social engineering to me.  Also, anti family values.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2015, 09:39:52 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jeb-bush-people-work-longer-hours/story?id=32313997

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Seriously, is he even trying? I can't think of a worse establishment candidate. I would never have voted for him before this, but this is really just pushing me into the Vote Hillary camp just to stop this crazy man. The GOP is just disgusting at the moment. I didn't think it got worse than Romney.

Are you serious? He's saying we need to be more productive and we need to work more hours because this is a part-time economy. People have to get back to working 40 hours instead of 25 hours. That's what he's saying.

This headline is more proof the media fears Jeb Bush because they know he can win.

People aren't working more because of the greed of the investor class, which has shipped jobs overseas where folks work 50-60 hours a week for poverty wages.  Less-than-subsistance wages.  Jeb's got some crust, eh?  This is got to be the most out of touch statement I've heard a politician make.  And I'm saying this as I work my 2nd job because my main job (which requires a 4 year college degree) isn't enough when my spouse isn't making $10/hour with no benefits.

Let me also share with Jebby-Poo that it took me some time to find my 2nd job to work more hours.  I had to make sure that it didn't conflict with my first 40 hours of primary work, and that's the burden lots of people DO face who are working 2 part-time jobs; how to make sure one doesn't conflict with the other.  

That's the thing about the Bushes that irritate me no end; they have no idea how the average person lives.  None of them have ever had to put off making a major family purchase until they were on sounder financial footing.  None of them have ever had to choose between keeping the car running and dental care for themselves or their kids.  None of them have had to settle for a half-wit doctor and something other than the best possible Rx for an illness because their doctor was "the guy on the plan" and the insurance company wouldn't allow for the newest antibiotic.  They also never had to go back to a doctor to tell them that the antibiotic they were just prescribed (that was pushed by the saleswoman in the "power suit" with that "samples" briefcase) cost over $100.00 that they didn't have and could Dr. Soandso give them a Rx for amoxycillin or something cheaper.  They know nothing about this.  So when Bush 41 professed his love for pork rinds, or Bush 43 tried to act like a regular rancher dude, and not some legacy propped up by his rich Daddy in everything he ever tried, I get nauseous in a particular way.  The Bushes make it easy for me to vote Democratic, even given my social conservatism.  Jebby just took the cake, however.  This is clueless at new levels.

From CNN, not exactly a conservative source:

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2015, 09:52:55 PM »

I'm not a big Jeb fan, but I will vote for him if he's the nominee, and the title of this thread seems very sensationalist, since that doesn't seem to accurately represent what he's actually saying at all.
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2015, 10:19:29 PM »

I'm not a big Jeb fan, but I will vote for him if he's the nominee, and the title of this thread seems very sensationalist, since that doesn't seem to accurately represent what he's actually saying at all.

Actually, the title of the thread and the article represents completely accurately what Jeb Bush said and, they are, in fact, a quote of what he said.

The claim that the title is sensationalist is based on a press release the Bush campaign put out after the controversy started that said "this is what I really meant to say."

The only dishonestly here comes from the lying Bush enablers on this site.  I think we've all had enough of them after the Iraq War of choice.
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2015, 12:10:33 AM »

His quote is implying that it is the fault of employees for being unwilling to work full-time, as if everyone really has a choice.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2015, 12:22:54 AM »

Americans are already working much longer than almost anyone else on the planet, except maybe the Koreans.

What's your annual vacation again, just 2 weeks or something ?
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2015, 12:27:00 AM »

Bush also wants to raise the retirement age to 70. He wants to work the worthless peons into an early grave.
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2015, 06:10:47 AM »

Things not to say when you're a slacker who was born rich.

Again, he was saying that people should be working full time because under Obama, we have a part-time economy.

And when President Obama said "you didn't build that," he was referring to the infrastructure needed to sustain small businesses which is paid for by taxes.

If you're explaining, you're losing.
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2015, 06:39:37 AM »

Again, Jeb Bush is simply wrong. Longer hours don't lead to higher productivity

http://www.hreonline.com/HRE/view/story.jhtml?id=534358256
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2015, 07:13:31 AM »

I guess this is a hard concept for those on the left to grasp, since they love artificial wage increases which kill jobs, but worker productivity is how you naturally increase wages and higher productivity coupled with longer hours equals higher wages. It's simple economics.
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2015, 07:29:41 AM »

The article explicitly states that full time workers are already working 47 hr weeks on average. There is no evidence he meant to say part time workers. The point he should be talking about is reducing work week hours.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2015, 07:32:13 AM »

I guess this is a hard concept for those on the left to grasp, since they love artificial wage increases which kill jobs, but worker productivity is how you naturally increase wages and higher productivity coupled with longer hours equals higher wages. It's simple economics.

Work for the sake or work is counter to both capitalism and quality of life. If there's stuff to do, pay people to do it. There isn't though. Who does JEB Bush think is going to pay these people to do 70 hours of busy work a week?
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2015, 08:43:44 AM »

Seems to me that if people worked longer hours, there would be lower demand for labor, and therefore employment would decrease.  Since you can have fewer people do more work, you don't need to employ as many people. 

This comment seems to cut a little too close to the 'poor people are lazy and need to work more' argument that some on the right use.
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2015, 07:41:50 PM »

The article explicitly states that full time workers are already working 47 hr weeks on average. There is no evidence he meant to say part time workers. The point he should be talking about is reducing work week hours.

Do you work for MSNBC? Seriously, he specifically referred to the fact that we have record low labor participation right now before he made the comment.
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