Webb: Democratic Party has moved "way far to the left"

[DS0816]

Jim Webb is not viable.

No one should pretend otherwise.

[Xing]

Uh-huh, sure Webb, tell us all how "moderate" you are compared to the "loony left". That worked so well for Pryor, Landrieu, Grimes, Nunn, Hagan, and Begich... Oh wait. Never mind.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

i mean it's not that hard to move "way far to the left" from bill clinton...

[publicunofficial]

"Of course the Democrats have gotten more liberal; look at all these bills I don't like. Also they support Obama, who we all know is a radical socialist that a true moderate Dem would disavow completely."

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

lol

On a side note, crafting a right-wing populist message is quite the novelty these days.

1) How is his message "right-wing," other than the rationale that you don't appreciate his comments and you're not "right-wing."

2) If anything, cute left-wing populism like cheerleading for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren is the novelty now.

If you are claiming that a party's moved "far to the left" could still reasonably ideologically include people in the British Conservative Party, then claiming to be anywhere "moderate" of that is right-wing.

Also I think you need to look at what 'novelty' means again.

[Bojack Horseman]

F*** you, Jim Webb. How can he call himself a Democrat?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Jim, you're so freaking predictable.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Is he laying the foundation to endorse a Republican and return to VA politics as a Republican?  I tend to believe that Democrats who complain about the leftward tilt to the party aren't real committed Democrats.

[eric82oslo]

Is he laying the foundation to endorse a Republican and return to VA politics as a Republican?  I tend to believe that Democrats who complain about the leftward tilt to the party aren't real committed Democrats.

At least they don't won't to win the party's nomination for sure. Could you imagine Romney complaining about his party having moved too far to the right, in the middle of the heated primaries?

[Reaganfan]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

[Famous Mortimer]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

[eric82oslo]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I'd say he sounds like 105 actually.

[Figueira]

It's not so much that the Democratic Party has moved left as that the right wing of the Democratic Party has been pretty thoroughly wiped out (they're the ones who lost their seats in the GOP waves, for the most part) so what's left feels further left even though it isn't. I don't think it's not so much that a Heath Shuler wouldn't be welcomed in the Democratic Party anymore as that a Heath Shuler couldn't get elected in North Carolina anymore, for example.

Well, he could probably get elected in North Carolina, just not his old district.

Otherwise, this post is spot on, though.

[Mercenary]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

I think social issues is one area people can actually agree that the dems have moved to the left. Other issues though, not so much. And the US in general has moved quite far to the left on social issues for better or worse.

[Maxwell]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Shut up Ted Nugent fan.

[Reaganfan]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?

[RFayette]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?

Out of curiosity, were your fellow soldiers similar in views?  I definitely agree, there are times that it would be nice if we as a society showed a little more moral restraint, that's for sure.

[Reaganfan]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?

Out of curiosity, were your fellow soldiers similar in views?  I definitely agree, there are times that it would be nice if we as a society showed a little more moral restraint, that's for sure.

Yes. I didn't meet anyone in the Air Force against guns. Or covered in tattoos. Or who was pro-drug. If they were they never told me, which is the opposite of every person my age I meet in the civilian workforce.

[Fuzzy Bear]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?

Out of curiosity, were your fellow soldiers similar in views?  I definitely agree, there are times that it would be nice if we as a society showed a little more moral restraint, that's for sure.

Yes. I didn't meet anyone in the Air Force against guns. Or covered in tattoos. Or who was pro-drug. If they were they never told me, which is the opposite of every person my age I meet in the civilian workforce.

I agree with this young man.

My wife and I are 60 and 58 respectively.  We are raising our grandson, whom we have legally adopted due to circumstances I won't discuss here.  We have two (2) grown sons, one of whom has done well, and one of whom has had serious issues. 

I have seen the coarsening of our society over the decades, and I am shocked and saddened.  One of my objectives in raising our adopted son is for him to grow up as naïve as possible until it's time to expose him to the "real world".  When he sees it, I want him to be appropriately shocked as to how people think and act, and act accordingly.  Too many kids see parents with ink, foul language, drug use, minor criminality, divorce, sex outside of marriage, and they think this is normal and OK after a while; it doesn't disturb them when others engage in irresponsible or over-the-top behavior.

I sense that this young man reacted to our "real world" with the proper amount of aversion.  It's real dangerous today to be a "follower"; the stakes are high and the price of following the crowd can last a lifetime.

[Reaganfan]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?

Out of curiosity, were your fellow soldiers similar in views?  I definitely agree, there are times that it would be nice if we as a society showed a little more moral restraint, that's for sure.

Yes. I didn't meet anyone in the Air Force against guns. Or covered in tattoos. Or who was pro-drug. If they were they never told me, which is the opposite of every person my age I meet in the civilian workforce.

I agree with this young man.

My wife and I are 60 and 58 respectively.  We are raising our grandson, whom we have legally adopted due to circumstances I won't discuss here.  We have two (2) grown sons, one of whom has done well, and one of whom has had serious issues. 

I have seen the coarsening of our society over the decades, and I am shocked and saddened.  One of my objectives in raising our adopted son is for him to grow up as naïve as possible until it's time to expose him to the "real world".  When he sees it, I want him to be appropriately shocked as to how people think and act, and act accordingly.  Too many kids see parents with ink, foul language, drug use, minor criminality, divorce, sex outside of marriage, and they think this is normal and OK after a while; it doesn't disturb them when others engage in irresponsible or over-the-top behavior.

I sense that this young man reacted to our "real world" with the proper amount of aversion.  It's real dangerous today to be a "follower"; the stakes are high and the price of following the crowd can last a lifetime.

Yep. The reason I cannot vote for the Democrats of today is because what is that what I see as aversion, they see as "progress."

[Fuzzy Bear]

He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?

Out of curiosity, were your fellow soldiers similar in views?  I definitely agree, there are times that it would be nice if we as a society showed a little more moral restraint, that's for sure.

Yes. I didn't meet anyone in the Air Force against guns. Or covered in tattoos. Or who was pro-drug. If they were they never told me, which is the opposite of every person my age I meet in the civilian workforce.

I agree with this young man.

My wife and I are 60 and 58 respectively.  We are raising our grandson, whom we have legally adopted due to circumstances I won't discuss here.  We have two (2) grown sons, one of whom has done well, and one of whom has had serious issues. 

I have seen the coarsening of our society over the decades, and I am shocked and saddened.  One of my objectives in raising our adopted son is for him to grow up as naïve as possible until it's time to expose him to the "real world".  When he sees it, I want him to be appropriately shocked as to how people think and act, and act accordingly.  Too many kids see parents with ink, foul language, drug use, minor criminality, divorce, sex outside of marriage, and they think this is normal and OK after a while; it doesn't disturb them when others engage in irresponsible or over-the-top behavior.

I sense that this young man reacted to our "real world" with the proper amount of aversion.  It's real dangerous today to be a "follower"; the stakes are high and the price of following the crowd can last a lifetime.

Yep. The reason I cannot vote for the Democrats of today is because what is that what I see as aversion, they see as "progress."

I used to be a partisan Democrat, but now, I'm an independent and a nominal Republican.  I'm a registered Republican because my state requires this to vote for local offices, and Florida is a pretty much one-party state on the state and local levels these days, even as it is competitive in Presidential elections. 

I will say, however, that on the social issues, the GOP really doesn't want to do anything about them.  If abortion were ended and SSM reversed, that would dry up lots of campaign cash and "boots on the ground" campaign volunteers.  The GOP wants to keep the social issue pot boiling and pass initiatives like ultrasounds for abortion patients that reward doctors and ultrasound manufacturers (campaign contributors) but there's not been real moral leadership on this issue for decades.  Besides, SSM and Roe v. Wade are both products of GOP appointed SCOTUS Justices. 

I tend to vote for Democratic Presidents and GOP members of Congress.  I'm not really against gridlock; it's kept some bad ideas from happening.