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« on: July 15, 2015, 11:16:27 PM »
PPP polled on this subject in NC (Voters said 61/21 that the supreme court should exist, and agreed 54/26 that states should follow its decisions; http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/07/north-carolinians-mostly-ambivalent-toward-shark-threat.html), so I figured its time to garner the Atlas opinion on this.

I oppose getting rid of the supreme court. I don't always agree with the decisions it makes, but I'd rather have the constitution being interpreted by the collective opinion of 5+ justices rather than just the president alone. And yes, states should have to listen to it, otherwise it serves no purpose.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 11:30:17 PM »
Quote from: Wulfric on July 15, 2015, 11:16:27 PM
And yes, states should have to listen to it, otherwise it serves no purpose.

Having a Supreme Court that states could ignore at will would be truly bizarre.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2015, 11:39:37 PM »
« Edited: July 15, 2015, 11:43:56 PM by The Last Northerner »
I would say yes but it would not be the highest priority on government reforms.

I would replace the presidential system (and seperation of powers) of the United States with a parliamentary system with full parliamentary sovereignty. The funny thing is that the Court has historically has the highest approval rating despite being non-elected. That says a lot about American 'democracy'.

EDIT - Relating to the current scenerio, yes - what is the point of having a Supreme Court if individual states are going to ignore it?
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 12:44:38 AM »
Yes (not John Roberts).
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 12:46:28 AM »
No (supports checks and balances)
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 02:33:05 AM »
No, the SCOTUS is necessary to make sure that the constitution is actually enforced. Is anyone actually suggesting getting rid of the Supreme Court though? I've heard fuss from SoCons about wanting to elect to supreme court, but not abolishing it. Poor choice of questions on PPP's part.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2015, 02:37:12 AM »
Quote from: PJ on July 16, 2015, 02:33:05 AM
No, the SCOTUS is necessary to make sure that the constitution is actually enforced. Is anyone actually suggesting getting rid of the Supreme Court though? I've heard fuss from SoCons about wanting to elect to supreme court, but not abolishing it. Poor choice of questions on PPP's part.

Jindal has announced his support for abolishing it.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2015, 02:48:04 AM »
Quote from: Wulfric on July 16, 2015, 02:37:12 AM
Quote from: PJ on July 16, 2015, 02:33:05 AM
No, the SCOTUS is necessary to make sure that the constitution is actually enforced. Is anyone actually suggesting getting rid of the Supreme Court though? I've heard fuss from SoCons about wanting to elect to supreme court, but not abolishing it. Poor choice of questions on PPP's part.

Jindal has announced his support for abolishing it.

Actually didn't know about that. It's odd that Jindal is pursuing this of all things as a way to circumvent Obergefell. I mean he could call for a (still politically unfeasible and utterly terrible) constitutional amendment to overturn the ruling, but instead he wants to abolish an entire branch of government. He probably knows that he has no chance at this point and is really desperate to distinguish himself enough from the others to get into the debates.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2015, 04:06:50 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2015, 04:16:11 AM by Αλληλεγγύη »
No, though its powers should be significantly curtailed. Judicial terms should be limited to 18 years, and it should require at least 6 justices to overturn legislation.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2015, 08:15:32 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2015, 10:16:35 AM »
I support getting rid of the bourgeois state, so yeah
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2015, 11:03:27 AM »
Of course not.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2015, 11:16:18 AM »
This isn't worth asking, it's just a PPP troll question.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2015, 12:22:48 PM »
Quote from: Wulfric on July 16, 2015, 02:37:12 AM
Quote from: PJ on July 16, 2015, 02:33:05 AM
No, the SCOTUS is necessary to make sure that the constitution is actually enforced. Is anyone actually suggesting getting rid of the Supreme Court though? I've heard fuss from SoCons about wanting to elect to supreme court, but not abolishing it. Poor choice of questions on PPP's part.

Jindal has announced his support for abolishing it.

It was a rhetorical point, not a serious proposal.

Obviously both this and an elected supreme court are horrible ideas.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2015, 12:27:56 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2015, 12:56:26 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2015, 12:58:51 PM »
Yes (opposed to checks and balances)
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2015, 01:12:21 PM »
SCOTUS should exist and the states must listen to it.
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2015, 01:19:34 PM »
Lol at that moderate hero middle option.
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2015, 02:34:15 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2015, 03:25:36 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2015, 07:51:33 PM »
No, I disagree with many rulings,  but it is still a necessary safeguard. We'd be worse off without it.
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2015, 09:04:34 PM »
No (sane, normal)
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2015, 09:37:02 PM »
Voted yes as a mistaken attempt to answer no, though it'd be good to see it reformed a little and a Constitutional Court added that proactively scrutinizes government policies as opposed to waiting for someone to start a case that works its way up through lower courts.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2015, 07:28:37 AM »
And, well, as I don't support the idea of a written constitution - the legislature (and ultimately the people) should have more authority than random judges bickering about the meaning of a semi-colon in Article 4, Paragraph 7, Clause 28.
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