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Poll
Question: What should be done about Atlasia?
#1
(old member): Abolish
 
#2
(old member): Reboot
 
#3
(old member): Reform
 
#4
(old member): Status Quo
 
#5
(newer member): Abolish
 
#6
(newer member): Reboot
 
#7
(newer member): Reform
 
#8
(newer member): Status Quo
 
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Partisan results

Total Voters: 69

Author Topic: BK MEGAPOLL: Final Solution for the Atlasian Question  (Read 4031 times)
Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« on: July 19, 2015, 03:32:08 PM »

Why don't we try reforms? Or put it up to a democratic vote whether we want a restart or not?

I'm against dissolution mostly because I'm worried those traitorous people who voted "abolish" get their way and Atlasia's gone forever. If we restart, we need to guarantee that we don't just kill it off forever.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2015, 05:52:49 PM »

Reboot and reform to an erepublik-like browser game.

I'd prefer it stay as a forum game.

Why don't we try reforms? Or put it up to a democratic vote whether we want a restart or not?

I'm against dissolution mostly because I'm worried those traitorous people who voted "abolish" get their way and Atlasia's gone forever. If we restart, we need to guarantee that we don't just kill it off forever.

It's awesome that you're interested in this game because there's so little new blood.

This is a public opinion poll to determine for policymakers what the outcome of any democratic vote might look like.

And an issue most people seem to have with reforms is that historically they've mostly been useless or made things worse, and that even when a majority supports the idea of "reform" they are diametrically opposed about what exactly those reforms should look like

Right, I know what this is, I'm just trying to make sure people realize that a restart isn't an alternative to coming together and determining reforms. Kicking the can down the road isn't the answer, but neither is going to a different road and kicking the can down that.

Basically, I'd prefer a restart to be done sensibly, and I'd really prefer it be done after we try other reforms. It really can't hurt.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2015, 07:12:32 PM »


Been tried (and very very frequently) for well over five years now. The reason why reform movements always fail here is because structural flaws built into the game make it very easy for the knuckle draggers to block everything of use.

I still don't think we should give up that easily. Let's try a Constitutional Convention. If that doesn't work, I'll listen to well-thought-out restart plans. As many people have said (including Senator Kalwejt of your own party) just dissolving without a plan is ridiculous.
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