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« Reply #1475 on: March 15, 2017, 03:44:15 PM »

This result is historic. That red in the north will be gone tonight, wonder which color it gonna be tonight

fascinating indeed but less decisive than it would be in a country with a less fractured parliament.
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« Reply #1476 on: March 15, 2017, 03:47:05 PM »

This result is historic. That red in the north will be gone tonight, wonder which color it gonna be tonight

fascinating indeed but less decisive than it would be in a country with a less fractured parliament.

Yeah the pluralities are screwing with your mind in those maps. Groningen´s PvdA vote split between 3 parties and PVV not doing well there lets Rutte get his we won the North moment. 
It will be interesting to see where the future centre-right government has a plurality.
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« Reply #1477 on: March 15, 2017, 03:47:26 PM »

Ipsos exit poll, share of vote:

20.6% VVD
12.7% CDA
12.6% D66
12.6% PVV
10.7% GL
  9.3% SP
  6.0% PvdA
  4.0% CU
  3.3% PvdD
  2.7% 50+
  2.0% SGP
  2.0% Denk
  1.3% FvD

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/842109639894413312

Seems like forming a coalition will take a really, really, really long time.
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« Reply #1478 on: March 15, 2017, 03:47:38 PM »

Ipsos exit poll, share of vote:

20.6% VVD
12.7% CDA
12.6% D66
12.6% PVV
10.7% GL
  9.3% SP
  6.0% PvdA
  4.0% CU
  3.3% PvdD
  2.7% 50+
  2.0% SGP
  2.0% Denk
  1.3% FvD

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/842109639894413312

That looks terrible for the PVV, and that's really all I could say I was hoping for in this election.
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« Reply #1479 on: March 15, 2017, 03:48:27 PM »

PvdA: centre left: social democrats

Though rather enraged their electorate by not exactly being like this in government this time round, thus this result...
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« Reply #1480 on: March 15, 2017, 03:48:40 PM »

PvdA on 6%. Jesus.
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« Reply #1481 on: March 15, 2017, 03:49:12 PM »

Ipsos exit poll, share of vote:

20.6% VVD
12.7% CDA
12.6% D66
12.6% PVV
10.7% GL
  9.3% SP
  6.0% PvdA
  4.0% CU
  3.3% PvdD
  2.7% 50+
  2.0% SGP
  2.0% Denk
  1.3% FvD

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/842109639894413312

Seems like forming a coalition will take a really, really, really long time.

The Dutch will never beat our record. THey can't even beat our turnout record.

Honestly as it stands it seems straighforward. CU-D66-CDA in, PvdA out, Rutte stays PM. Work with the small parties in a minority. DavidB predicted this several pages ago when Wilders was on 30+ seats.

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« Reply #1482 on: March 15, 2017, 03:49:24 PM »

Vvd higher than in 2010 in this poll
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« Reply #1483 on: March 15, 2017, 03:50:41 PM »

I am very glad D66 is holding well or even win 1-2 seats compared to the polls. Most of the times it loses votes because of tactical voting
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« Reply #1484 on: March 15, 2017, 03:50:53 PM »

PvdA: centre left: social democrats

Though rather enraged their electorate by not exactly being like this in government this time round, thus this result...
And hence the rise of GL.
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« Reply #1485 on: March 15, 2017, 03:51:45 PM »

PVV almost doubling in the first two very small polling places.
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« Reply #1486 on: March 15, 2017, 03:51:56 PM »

First results are in.

2 islands in the north.

WOW!! the PvdA went from 30.1% to 8.9% in these 2 islands!!
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« Reply #1487 on: March 15, 2017, 03:52:03 PM »
« Edited: March 15, 2017, 03:54:41 PM by mvd10 »

I wonder whether the PvdA will be back to 25-30 seats in 4 years if we get a centre-right government. It might happen, but GL will try to become the main left-wing party. I don't think GL's appeal is broad enough for that but we can't rule it out.

And I really can't see how Asscher stays on after losing 29 seats. Dijsselbloem will remain in politics (probably as a MP since I don't think the PvdA will be in government) and I think he has bigger ambitions than being a backbench MP. And they always can appoint Aboutaleb (the very popular mayor of Rotterdam) leader.
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« Reply #1488 on: March 15, 2017, 03:52:47 PM »

Perhaps needless to say, but this is both the worst loss of a party in Dutch history and the worst PvdA result ever
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« Reply #1489 on: March 15, 2017, 03:53:05 PM »

PvdA needs to bring in Aboutaleb IMO.
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« Reply #1490 on: March 15, 2017, 03:53:27 PM »

I wonder whether the PvdA will be back to 25-30 seats in 4 years if we get a centre-right government. It might happen, but GL will try to become the main left-wing party. I don't think GL's appeal is broad enough for that but we can't rule it out.

They can make it back with Aboutaleb, if he doesnt turn out to be a Cohen
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« Reply #1491 on: March 15, 2017, 03:54:05 PM »

First results are in.

2 islands in the north.

WOW!! the PvdA went from 30.1% to 8.9% in these 2 islands!!


Is there any interactive map at all for this election?
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« Reply #1492 on: March 15, 2017, 03:54:47 PM »

This is what happens everytime a social democrat party betrays its nase for muh third way non sense.

Good riddance!
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« Reply #1493 on: March 15, 2017, 03:55:15 PM »

First results are in.

2 islands in the north.

WOW!! the PvdA went from 30.1% to 8.9% in these 2 islands!!


Is there any interactive map at all for this election?

http://nos.nl/artikel/2163332-tk17-bekijk-hier-de-uitslagen.html
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« Reply #1494 on: March 15, 2017, 03:55:27 PM »

Ipsos exit poll, share of vote:

20.6% VVD
12.7% CDA
12.6% D66
12.6% PVV
10.7% GL
  9.3% SP
  6.0% PvdA
  4.0% CU
  3.3% PvdD
  2.7% 50+
  2.0% SGP
  2.0% Denk
  1.3% FvD

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/842109639894413312

Seems like forming a coalition will take a really, really, really long time.

The Dutch will never beat our record. THey can't even beat our turnout record.

Honestly as it stands it seems straighforward. CU-D66-CDA in, PvdA out, Rutte stays PM. Work with the small parties in a minority. DavidB predicted this several pages ago when Wilders was on 30+ seats.



The problem will be D66 and SGP, especially if the euthanasia issue flares up.
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« Reply #1495 on: March 15, 2017, 03:56:45 PM »

First results are in.

2 islands in the north.

WOW!! the PvdA went from 30.1% to 8.9% in these 2 islands!!

They lost 10 points in Rozendaal too.
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« Reply #1496 on: March 15, 2017, 03:58:37 PM »

Ipsos exit poll, share of vote:

20.6% VVD
12.7% CDA
12.6% D66
12.6% PVV
10.7% GL
  9.3% SP
  6.0% PvdA
  4.0% CU
  3.3% PvdD
  2.7% 50+
  2.0% SGP
  2.0% Denk
  1.3% FvD

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/842109639894413312

Seems like forming a coalition will take a really, really, really long time.

The Dutch will never beat our record. THey can't even beat our turnout record.

Honestly as it stands it seems straighforward. CU-D66-CDA in, PvdA out, Rutte stays PM. Work with the small parties in a minority. DavidB predicted this several pages ago when Wilders was on 30+ seats.



The problem will be D66 and SGP, especially if the euthanasia issue flares up.

Euthanasia will be the main problem here yeah. But if PvdA and GroenLinks rule out to work with a VVD-CDA-D66 coalition it's the only option. We've seen how a coalition with the VVD worked out for the PvdA, I don't think GL would do much better.
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« Reply #1497 on: March 15, 2017, 03:59:12 PM »

Ipsos exit poll, share of vote:

20.6% VVD
12.7% CDA
12.6% D66
12.6% PVV
10.7% GL
  9.3% SP
  6.0% PvdA
  4.0% CU
  3.3% PvdD
  2.7% 50+
  2.0% SGP
  2.0% Denk
  1.3% FvD

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/842109639894413312

Seems like forming a coalition will take a really, really, really long time.

The Dutch will never beat our record. THey can't even beat our turnout record.

Honestly as it stands it seems straighforward. CU-D66-CDA in, PvdA out, Rutte stays PM. Work with the small parties in a minority. DavidB predicted this several pages ago when Wilders was on 30+ seats.



The problem will be D66 and SGP, especially if the euthanasia issue flares up.

I don't think it will be SGP, but the point still stands because CU have to be in there for a centre-right government.
I think they will try to negotiate with 50+ before SGP because they can buy off their electorate and get rid of it fairly easily. CDA and VVD +4 next election. Not sure if they have a majority in the FIrst Chamber.
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« Reply #1498 on: March 15, 2017, 04:01:33 PM »

None of the three towns currently reporting are really base areas for the SGP, but why are they down from 2.1% to 0.7%? Seems like an ominous result for them.

Also very unfortunate to see PP currently not improving on the 2012 result...
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« Reply #1499 on: March 15, 2017, 04:03:06 PM »

I think the coalition could be formed relatively quick: VVD, CDA and D66 is a logical combination. The small christian parties will support it from within or outside the coalition.
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