The Social Liberals

[Barnes]

Before we hold any leadership elections, I suggest we formally endorse the party constitution. I have a few modifications that I would like to put forward in a while before we finalize it.

[Barnes]

You must be logged in to read this quote.

[Vega]

It seems odd that the Party Chairman would be term limited, but the Parliamentary Leader isn't (the latter the more important position). I'm honestly against term limits, especially this early on. If the party wants to remove the chairman, they can do a no confidence vote.

[Barnes]

The idea is to allow multiple members a chance to hold the post without having to challenge an incumbent.

I've never been a fan of any kind of term limits on MPs or leadership positions, it just seems weird in my mind, but that's me.  The Leader does have to be re-elected after every general election, so assuming a Parliament runs its full term, about every ten weeks.  I should hope that if we have a poorly performing leader and/or bad election results they would be gallant enough to stand down, or a challenger would emerge.

I'm open to amendments, of course.  This is a document for the whole party.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Looks good to me!

[Barnes]

I nominate myself for Chairman.

[Vega]

And I remove myself from this election for Chairman, and put forward myself as a member of the executive.

I second Barnes for Chairman.

[Talleyrand]

We need two more people to put themselves up for slots on the executive.

[Barnes]

I'll just remind everyone that we haven't formally approved the Constitution; however, declarations now will help speed up the process when we do.

I second Talleyrand for Leader.

I nominate SJoyce for Deputy Leader.

[Barnes]

What do you all think about this?  We keep the color scheme and include a bird that gives a bit of a nod to South America.

[Blair]

I'll go for the executive, if I could hold that along with being deputy.

With the leadership elections, are they compulsory? I'd be against that, only if we get into government that could be a difficult thing to manage

[Talleyrand]

What do you all think about this?  We keep the color scheme and include a bird that gives a bit of a nod to South America.

I'm a fan of this personally.

I'll go for the executive, if I could hold that along with being deputy.

With the leadership elections, are they compulsory? I'd be against that, only if we get into government that could be a difficult thing to manage

Per the bylaws, you can only hold one, although you could probably run for both (I'd assume you'd have to give one up were you to win both).

I agree that compulsory leadership elections at the beginning of the parliament might need to be reconsidered, especially if we're in the midst of government formation negotiations. They might very well hinder us in that process.

[Donerail]

I don't see much of the need for mandatory elections. There seem to be sufficient provisions for causing an election that they'll happen pretty regularly.

I do agree with the parrot logo.

[Vega]

I like the parrot a lot, as well.

[Barnes]

Glad to see that the that the Parrot is popular!  I'll put it in the constitution if there are no objections.

I'm fine with removing the automatic elections - the original purpose was to ensure that there were regular checks on the leadership, but I believe now that such a move would be superfluous.

Blair, you cannot hold both positions at the same time; the three elected members are supposed to represent the party rank and file - the backbenches.

EDIT: I've updated my most recent post of the constitution to include the changes.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'll go for a party executive slot.

[Barnes]

Ok, I would like to get a vote on approving the Constitution started.

I move: "That the draft constitution detailed below be adopted as the official constitution of the Social Liberals."

You must be logged in to read this quote.

[Vega]

I second the motion.

[Talleyrand]

I second the motion.

And I third the motion.

[Barnes]

Having been moved and seconded, the question is that the motion "the draft constitution detailed below be adopted as the official constiution of the Social Liberals" be adopted.

As many as are of that opinion say Aye; those opposed No.

Aye.

[Talleyrand]

Aye.

[Donerail]

Aye

[BaconBacon96]

Aye

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Aye

[Hash]

aye