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« on: May 07, 2005, 12:32:12 PM »

Rank all of the following A, B or C

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old
Premaritial sex between consenting adults
Homosexual sex between consenting adults
Oral sex between consenting adults
Anal sex between consenting adults
Adultery
Prostitution
Abortion
Strip Clubs
Use of marijuana
Masturbation
Artificial birth control
"light" pornography (Playboy)
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean)
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2005, 12:33:18 PM »

here's what I say:

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old - B
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old - B
Premaritial sex between consenting adults - C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults - C
Oral sex between consenting adults - C
Anal sex between consenting adults - C
Adultery - B
Prostitution - B
Abortion - B
Strip Clubs - C
Use of marijuana - C
Masturbation - C
Artificial birth control - C
"light" pornography (Playboy) - C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) - B
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2005, 01:13:07 PM »

does "relations"in the first choices mean dating, or sex or otherwise? please specify.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2005, 01:56:38 PM »

yes, that's why I gave different categories. B for being immoral but should remain legal, A for should be illegal.

For relations I mean sexual.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2005, 02:11:46 PM »

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old A
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old B
Premaritial sex between consenting adults B
Homosexual sex between consenting adults A
Oral sex between consenting adults B
Anal sex between consenting adults A
Adultery A
Prostitution A
Abortion A
Strip Clubs B
Use of marijuana B
Masturbation B
Artificial birth control B
"light" pornography (Playboy) B
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) A
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2005, 02:24:51 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old  -  C
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old -  C
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old  - C
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old  -  C
Premaritial sex between consenting adults   -  C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults  -  C
Oral sex between consenting adults  -  C
Anal sex between consenting adults  -  C
Adultery  -  C
Prostitution  -  C
Abortion  -  C
Strip Clubs  -  C
Use of marijuana  -  C
Masturbation   -  C
Artificial birth control  -  C
"light" pornography (Playboy)  -  C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean)  -  C
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2005, 02:52:53 PM »

 A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old  -  A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old -  A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old  - C
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old  -  C
Premaritial sex between consenting adults   -  C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults  -  C
Oral sex between consenting adults  -  C
Anal sex between consenting adults  -  C
Adultery  -  B
Prostitution  -  A
Abortion  -  C (in first two trimesters, A in final trimester)
Strip Clubs  -  B
Use of marijuana  -  A (but I really could go either way on legality)
Masturbation   -  C
Artificial birth control  -  C
"light" pornography (Playboy)  -  C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean)  -  B
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2005, 03:04:59 PM »
« Edited: May 07, 2005, 03:51:11 PM by Bono »

Rank all of the following A, B or C

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old Not immoral becuase of age, should be legal
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old Not immoral becuase of age, should be legal
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old Not immoral becuase of age, should be legal
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old  Not immoral becuase of age, should be legal
Premaritial sex between consenting adults I'm till divided on the meaning of pornea
Homosexual sex between consenting adults I'm still divided on the meaning of arsenokoitai
Oral sex between consenting adults C or B, depending
Anal sex between consenting adults C or B, depending
Adultery B
Prostitution B
Abortion A
Strip Clubs B
Use of marijuana B
Masturbation C (should even be encouraged as a means to preventing premature sex)
Artificial birth control C
"light" pornography (Playboy) B
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) B
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2005, 03:25:14 PM »

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old - B
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old - C
Premaritial sex between consenting adults - C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults - C
Oral sex between consenting adults - C
Anal sex between consenting adults - C
Adultery - B (unless spouse has no problem with it, then C)
Prostitution - C
Abortion - Depends
Strip Clubs - C
Use of marijuana - C
Masturbation - C
Artificial birth control - C
"light" pornography (Playboy) - C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) - C

First of all, just because something is often used immorally doesn't meant it is necessarily immoral in and of itself. I tend to answer these questions by the latter.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2005, 03:29:46 PM »


Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old C
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old C
Premaritial sex between consenting adults C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults C
Oral sex between consenting adults C
Anal sex between consenting adults C
Adultery C
Prostitution C
Abortion C
Strip Clubs C
Use of marijuana C
Masturbation C
Artificial birth control C
"light" pornography (Playboy) C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) C
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2005, 03:38:41 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Oral sex between consenting adults A or B, depending
Anal sex between consenting adults A or B, depending

You would consider banning oral and/or anal sex?  This is the nuttiest one yet, particularly considering some of your other partially-tolerant votes.  So, what do you mean 'depending'?
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2005, 03:50:42 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Oral sex between consenting adults A or B, depending
Anal sex between consenting adults A or B, depending

You would consider banning oral and/or anal sex?  This is the nuttiest one yet, particularly considering some of your other partially-tolerant votes.  So, what do you mean 'depending'?

oops, my mistake, I meant B or C.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2005, 04:39:08 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Oral sex between consenting adults A or B, depending
Anal sex between consenting adults A or B, depending

You would consider banning oral and/or anal sex?  This is the nuttiest one yet, particularly considering some of your other partially-tolerant votes.  So, what do you mean 'depending'?

oops, my mistake, I meant B or C.

Oh, good - that is a relief. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2005, 05:08:08 PM »

Relations btwn. adult and 14-year old: illegal and immoral
Marijuana use: illegal but not immoral
Everything else: legal and not immoral
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2005, 05:11:45 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old - A
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old - A
Premaritial sex between consenting adults - B maybe C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults - B could be C
Oral sex between consenting adults - C maybe B
Anal sex between consenting adults - C Maybe B
Adultery - B but the person who has the affair should get less in case of a divorce
Prostitution - A
Abortion - B possibly C at certain stages or A in others
Strip Clubs - A or B
Use of marijuana - A unless its for medical reasons then C
Masturbation - C
Artificial birth control - C
"light" pornography (Playboy) - C might be a B but thats pushing it
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) between consenting adults? C maybe a B. A if minors are involved.
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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2005, 05:19:18 PM »
« Edited: May 07, 2005, 05:53:39 PM by Frodo »

Rank all of the following A, B or C

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal
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Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old A -if we are talking about a lesbian couple as opposed to a gay (male) couple, then B.

Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old A -if we're talking about relations between an adult female and a 14 year-old male, then B.

Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old C

Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old C

Premaritial sex between consenting adults C

Homosexual sex between consenting adults C

Oral sex between consenting adults C

Anal sex between consenting adults C

Adultery B

Prostitution B

Abortion B

Strip Clubs C

Use of marijuana C

Masturbation C

Artificial birth control C

"light" pornography (Playboy) C

"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) B/C -with BRTD's clarification
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2005, 05:23:33 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old - A
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old - A
Premaritial sex between consenting adults - B maybe C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults - B could be C
Oral sex between consenting adults - C maybe B
Anal sex between consenting adults - C Maybe B
Adultery - B but the person who has the affair should get less in case of a divorce
Prostitution - A
Abortion - B possibly C at certain stages or A in others
Strip Clubs - A or B
Use of marijuana - A unless its for medical reasons then C
Masturbation - C
Artificial birth control - C
"light" pornography (Playboy) - C might be a B but thats pushing it
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) between consenting adults? C maybe a B. A if minors are involved.

you call yourself a Libertarian and you think prostitution, marijuana, and strip clubs should be illegal?!  Change parties, you prude.
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2005, 05:31:04 PM »

I´m really missing the "D" option: "it isn´t immoral, but it should be illegal nonetheless" Smiley.

Laws shouldn´t be made because something is "immoral", but because it makes sense to enact them. So I´m officially protesting against the use of the formulation "A=immoral and should be illegal" Wink.



Rank all of the following A, B or C

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal


Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old: A

Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old: A

Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old: Under the condition that it is indeed just a 18-year-old... probably C.

Heterosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old: C

Premaritial sex between consenting adults: C

Homosexual sex between consenting adults: C

Oral sex between consenting adults: C

Anal sex between consenting adults: C

Adultery: B

Prostitution: B/C (depends/not sure/whatever)

Abortion: B

Strip Clubs: B/C (depends/not sure/whatever)

Use of marijuana: C

Masturbation: C

Artificial birth control: C

"light" pornography (Playboy): C

"hard" pornography (you know what I mean): uh, depends how "hard" it is exactly... it could be either A, B, or C for me. Do you have examples? Give me examples! Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2005, 05:36:57 PM »

I wasn't referring to child porn with the "hard" porn category, but rather the XXX CUM GUZZLING SLUTS type stuff you find in the way back room of video stores, or maybe even Hustler.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2005, 05:47:02 PM »

I wasn't referring to child porn with the "hard" porn category, but rather the XXX CUM GUZZLING SLUTS type stuff you find in the way back room of video stores, or maybe even Hustler.

You were the one who said "you know what I mean"... Wink

Well, in that case certainly not "A". I would decide on a case to a case basis wether it´s "B" or "C" stuff. Not that I´m running now into the next video store... I´m not that desperate. Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2005, 05:50:29 PM »

well you could just check your email.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2005, 06:12:34 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old: A if you mean an 'adult' adult, B if it's an 18-19 year old.

Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old: same as above.

Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old: B-C, depending on circumstances. Usually B.
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old: See above.

Premaritial sex between consenting adults: C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults: C
Oral sex between consenting adults: Usually C
Anal sex between consenting adults: Usually C
Adultery: B
Prostitution: B-C (B for a married person, C if not married)
Abortion: A, B, or C, depending on circumstances. Normally B transitioning to A in the course of pregnancy; move up one if the mother's life is in danger (C moving to B).
Strip Clubs: B-C
Use of marijuana: B
Masturbation: C
Artificial birth control: B-C depending on what kind.
"light" pornography (Playboy): C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean): B-C
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2005, 06:39:55 PM »

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old- A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old- A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old- C
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old- C
Premaritial sex between consenting adults- C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults- C
Oral sex between consenting adults- C
Anal sex between consenting adults- C
Adultery- C
Prostitution- C
Abortion- C
Strip Clubs- C
Use of marijuana- C
Masturbation- C
Artificial birth control- C
"light" pornography (Playboy)- C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean)- C
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2005, 06:43:26 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2005, 01:38:32 AM by Porce »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old - A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old - B
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old - B
Premaritial sex between consenting adults - B
Homosexual sex between consenting adults - B
Oral sex between consenting adults - depends.  Are they married?   B if not, C if yes
Anal sex between consenting adults - ditto
Adultery - B
Prostitution - A
Abortion - A
Strip Clubs - B
Use of marijuana - C
Masturbation - C
Artificial birth control - C
"light" pornography (Playboy) - B
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean) - unsure.  lean B.
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2005, 06:44:55 PM »

A=immoral and should be illegal
B=immoral but should be legal
C=not immoral and should legal

Homosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old- A
Heterosexual relations between an adult and 14 year old- A
Homosexual relations between a 16 and 18 year old- C
Heterosexual relations betwee a 16 and 18 year old- C
Premaritial sex between consenting adults- C
Homosexual sex between consenting adults- C
Oral sex between consenting adults- C
Anal sex between consenting adults-C
Adultery- B
Prostitution- C
Abortion- C
Strip Clubs- C
Use of marijuana- C
Masturbation- C (I ENCOURAGE IT!)
Artificial birth control- C
"light" pornography (Playboy)- C
"hard" pornography (you know what I mean)- C (OH YEAH!)
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