Seven years later, is Obama now worth of his Nobel Peace Prize?
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2015, 12:25:19 PM »

Regarding Syria...Obama didn't get Congressional approval, therefore he didn't go to war. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? Or are we criticizing him for "warmongering" (whatever that means)?
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2015, 06:58:37 PM »

No is the correct answer.
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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2015, 10:54:29 AM »

I think he's worthy of his Nobel Peace Prize. Although I hate it how they gave the prize to him during his presidency. That was stupid. They should've gave it to him after his presidency.
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2015, 12:31:45 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2015, 01:40:45 PM »

He always was and always will. He's been the least war-hungry president in US history, by very far.

What?

Even if we restrain that to just within living memory, there's Jimmy Carter. Gerald Ford wasn't particularly warmongering either.
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« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2015, 01:59:07 PM »

He always was and always will. He's been the least war-hungry president in US history, by very far.

Because war is objectively bad and all. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2015, 02:38:20 PM »

He always was and always will. He's been the least war-hungry president in US history, by very far.

Because war is objectively bad and all. Roll Eyes

In the context of the Nobel Peace Prize, it (almost) always is. It's certainly never an actively good thing.
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« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2015, 06:54:23 PM »

He always was and always will. He's been the least war-hungry president in US history, by very far.

Because war is objectively bad and all. Roll Eyes

In the context of the Nobel Peace Prize, it (almost) always is. It's certainly never an actively good thing.

I think the Nobel Peace Prize is something that has long meant different things to different people. Is it a reward for a specific event or for the sum contributions of a lifetime? Theodore Roosevelt is easily one of the top three or so hawkish presidents we've had and did some horrible stuff, but is a Nobel Laureate for the specific accomplishment of negotiating peace between Russia and Japan. Is this view (very early on and probably closer to the original point of the award) that the award is meant as a reward for a specific accomplishment wrong? If it isn't wrong, then awards like Arafat's or Kissinger's start seeming far less absurd.
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« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2015, 10:45:27 PM »

No, not worthy. 

The very question begs for analysis of the true meaning.  If we are to judge whether he is worthy of the award he received 6 or 7 years ago because of what he has done since then, it seems to be built upon flawed logic.  Consider if you would judge the 2008 MVP winner for the American League to be worthy of that award based upon what he has accomplished in the seasons since then.
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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2015, 10:36:13 AM »

No, the Nobel Prize committee should have waited until after his presidency. Giving him one when he had barely started his presidency is basically giving him a gold medal because he wasn't George W Bush.

Not basically,  literally.
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2015, 10:44:26 AM »

No, the Nobel Prize committee should have waited until after his presidency. Giving him one when he had barely started his presidency is basically giving him a gold medal because he wasn't George W Bush.

Not basically,  literally.

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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2015, 10:59:08 AM »

I'm lost.
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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2015, 12:43:30 PM »

Bombs foreign countries, deserves Nobel Peace Prize.

No folks here aren't Dem hacks at all Roll Eyes
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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2015, 07:11:52 PM »

No. While the Iran and Cuba deals are good, his war-mongering is beyond absurd. He's by far the biggest warmonger in american history


When were you born dude? Yesterday?
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« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2015, 08:36:41 PM »

Stopping the economic meltdown of 2007-2009 may have prevented some horrible wars by preventing the rise of a Hitler as happened in the wake of the 1929-1932 meltdown (which after a year and a half was similar in severity)..

Wow, Obama saved the world from Hitler 2.0? Who would that be in your mind? Maybe Santorum, after all he was an altar boy

An angry Iraq War vet and failed Canadian artist that was the son of a customs officer from Alberta.
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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2015, 02:01:35 AM »

Stopping the economic meltdown of 2007-2009 may have prevented some horrible wars by preventing the rise of a Hitler as happened in the wake of the 1929-1932 meltdown (which after a year and a half was similar in severity)..

Wow, Obama saved the world from Hitler 2.0? Who would that be in your mind? Maybe Santorum, after all he was an altar boy

An angry Iraq War vet and failed Canadian artist that was the son of a customs officer from Alberta.

What makes you think Hitler 2.0 would be Canadian?
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« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2015, 02:01:19 PM »

He's been the least war-hungry president in US history, by very far.

And that's enough to get you a Nobel peace prize?
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« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2015, 02:27:46 PM »

No, the Nobel Prize committee should have waited until after his presidency. Giving him one when he had barely started his presidency is basically giving him a gold medal because he wasn't George W Bush.
A feat worthy of a gold medal tbf
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« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2015, 02:30:37 PM »

Bombs foreign countries, deserves Nobel Peace Prize.

No folks here aren't Dem hacks at all Roll Eyes

^^^ Drone campaign or military involvement in six countries. Deserves Nobel Peace Prize.
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« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2015, 06:16:44 PM »

Stopping the economic meltdown of 2007-2009 may have prevented some horrible wars by preventing the rise of a Hitler as happened in the wake of the 1929-1932 meltdown (which after a year and a half was similar in severity)..

Wow, Obama saved the world from Hitler 2.0? Who would that be in your mind? Maybe Santorum, after all he was an altar boy

An angry Iraq War vet and failed Canadian artist that was the son of a customs officer from Alberta.

What makes you think Hitler 2.0 would be Canadian?

Just trying to come up with a parallel with Canada being Austria to Americas Germany.
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