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« on: July 23, 2015, 06:15:41 PM »

As well as an evangelical, gay/lesbian, and even an atheist President of the United States.  The only exception -socialists:

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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2015, 08:46:29 PM »

To be fair, a non-zero portion of those probably believe that we already have a Muslim President.

It's interesting that Catholics are much more okay with a Muslim president than Protestants are. And it's odd that 9% of those with no religion aren't okay with an atheist president.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2015, 11:03:01 AM »

To be fair, a non-zero portion of those probably believe that we already have a Muslim President.

It's interesting that Catholics are much more okay with a Muslim president than Protestants are. And it's odd that 9% of those with no religion aren't okay with an atheist president.

There's a difference between no religion and atheist. No religion may just mean no organised religion, vaguely deist etc. Also some Atheists have hurt the atheism brand's value.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2015, 02:37:34 PM »

Only 57% of the non-religious would support a well-qualified Evangelical Christian?  But 82% of them would support a well-qualified Muslim?

I'm at a loss of words. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2015, 02:42:15 PM »

Only 57% of the non-religious would support a well-qualified Evangelical Christian?  But 82% of them would support a well-qualified Muslim?

I'm at a loss of words. 

I think a lot of them probably assume that any evangelical Christian president would be very conservative, and I get the impression a lot of liberals don't realize how much more socially conservative the average Muslim is than the average evangelical Christian...
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2015, 03:24:57 PM »

Only 57% of the non-religious would support a well-qualified Evangelical Christian?  But 82% of them would support a well-qualified Muslim?

I'm at a loss of words. 

I think a lot of them probably assume that any evangelical Christian president would be very conservative, and I get the impression a lot of liberals don't realize how much more socially conservative the average Muslim is than the average evangelical Christian...

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I'm ready to vote for anyone who will implement a platform similar to my views... although hell will probably freeze over before an atheist with my social views is elected  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2015, 06:58:28 PM »

Only 57% of the non-religious would support a well-qualified Evangelical Christian?  But 82% of them would support a well-qualified Muslim?

I'm at a loss of words. 

I think a lot of them probably assume that any evangelical Christian president would be very conservative, and I get the impression a lot of liberals don't realize how much more socially conservative the average Muslim is than the average evangelical Christian...

True.  Islam is very conservative, and I've pointed out the inconsistency of secular liberals giving Islam a pass while calling out Christian conservatives for crazy stuff.  However, in this case, it may be understandable why they'd rather have a Muslim POTUS than a Christian fundamentalist.  After all, a Muslim will not get elected President by promoting Sharia Law.  If a Muslim gets that far, he or she will have been well-assimilated into American society.  Also, he or she will know what being a minority in America is like, and will have cosmopolitan views and probably not push for anti-gay laws or other discriminatory policies.

A Christian Fundamentalist who gets to be President would be more likely to believe that he has a duty to uphold the "norms and values" of this "Christian nation" and its majority, and more likely to promote socially discriminatory policies.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2015, 08:14:25 PM »

Yes, people will assume the Muslim is someone very well integrated and Westernized because those are the only Muslims that could get near the Presidency, whereas Evangelical signals Fundi to most atheists and liberal Christians/Jews.

The relevant comparison would be one with some adjective attached to Muslim as well, like Conservative/Traditional Muslim (or even Mainline).

Faced with the choice between a Fundamentalist Muslim or an Evangelical Christian the evangelical would win by a huge margin.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2015, 10:28:30 PM »

But remember, a majority of Americans were ready for a Black president in the 70's if polls are to go by.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2015, 10:43:48 PM »

Lumping in socialists with Muslims and gays and such is a stupid idea in my opinion. Socialism is an ideology, whereas the others are affiliations. I'm actually quite surprised that the secularists really don't like evangelicals. The question is just whether they approve of a well qualified nominee of their party, so I think too many people just automatically assume they're very religiously conservative no matter what.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2015, 02:41:02 AM »

I can never imagine a Muslim person become a president anytime soon. Both the media and conservative voters will have a field day if a Muslim politician like Keith Ellison chose to run for President.

Only after the wars have subsided, Radical Islam has become less of a threat, and newer voters looked into new issues for the government. Than I can see a Muslim candidate having a shot.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2015, 04:48:14 PM »

If you're of a certain backwards mindset, then we already have a Muslim president.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2015, 08:08:16 PM »

If you're of a certain backwards mindset, then we already have a Muslim president.

A Islamofascist Kenyan Communist Atheiist limp-wristed dictator who is also gay and a terrorist and whose real name is Barry Soetero if you go by the nuttiest of backwards mindsets. Thanks, Infowars!
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2015, 06:57:43 PM »

If you're of a certain backwards mindset, then we already have a Muslim president.

I simply don't know what he believes. What I do know is that many things that he does believe are antithetical to my worldview.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2015, 08:07:45 PM »

If you're of a certain backwards mindset, then we already have a Muslim president.

I simply don't know what he believes. What I do know is that many things that he does believe are antithetical to my worldview.
Which things? Tolerance, mercy, helping the less fortunate, not choosing force as the first solution to a problem, or something else?
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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2015, 12:14:25 AM »

If you're of a certain backwards mindset, then we already have a Muslim president.

I simply don't know what he believes. What I do know is that many things that he does believe are antithetical to my worldview.
Which things? Tolerance, mercy, helping the less fortunate, not choosing force as the first solution to a problem, or something else?

He has no tolerance for those who cling to their guns and Bibles
He refuses to aid Christians who are citizens of the country he leads while negotiating the release of a deserter by giving up the Taliban equivalent of their best generals
Sides with ISIS when he should be should be loyal to our ally Israel
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2015, 03:03:25 AM »

If you're of a certain backwards mindset, then we already have a Muslim president.

I simply don't know what he believes. What I do know is that many things that he does believe are antithetical to my worldview.
Which things? Tolerance, mercy, helping the less fortunate, not choosing force as the first solution to a problem, or something else?

He has no tolerance for those who cling to their guns and Bibles
He refuses to aid Christians who are citizens of the country he leads while negotiating the release of a deserter by giving up the Taliban equivalent of their best generals
Sides with ISIS when he should be should be loyal to our ally Israel


Citation very much needed for all of those (and I don't care about that "clinging to guns and bibles" quote for your first accusation).
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