Young TV host advocates for full out war during tirade

[ElectionsGuy]

On the new right wing TV network One America, Tomi Lahren states that we need to "bring the fight to them" and "put the fear of God in their desert" (that sounds scarily similar to what ISIS would say). She also said some ridiculous statements that encourage profiling of ordinary Muslims such as "radical Islam is becoming the rule, not the exception" and "yesterday's moderate is today's terrorist". All this over the Chattanooga attack.

In my opinion, absolutely everything that's wrong with the 'conservative' outlook on the world. To bring another war into the middle east, to fight against a group at least partially created by the destabilization of the Iraqi government via the Iraq War, is insane. The tight nationalist grip of their outlook is driving the US into fiscal insanity and endless military intervention.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

ISIS only exists because of people with her views.

[Reaganfan]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?

[Landslide Lyndon]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror.

Osama bin-Laden can testify for that.

Oh, wait...

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror.

Osama bin-Laden can testify for that.

Oh, wait...

Robert O'Neill tip toed in on him.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?

Out of curiosity, do you consider Charleston a terror attack too?

[dead0man]

ISIS only exists because of people with her views.

seriously?  that's the ONLY reason ISIS exists?  I'm sure it's Israel's fault too.

[ingemann]

ISIS only exists because of people with her views.

In the middle ages, the Franks saw the Norse raids as the divine punishment for their (the Franks) ungodly behaviour. Because clearly the Norse wasn't sentinent beings who chose to raid for rather obvious reasons; loot, plunder and pillaging.

I guess you too are unable to see your fellow man as human being and instead see them as "furrins" who do weird sh**t because of "murica".

[SATW]

She's great and the video is great. I love the taste of progressive whining over it

[WVdemocrat]

She's great and the video is great. I love the taste of progressive whining over it.

Meanwhile, we're terrified of conservatives arguing inanely for ground troops in Iraq and Syria, irrespective of the geopolitical reality there. We don't need a four-way ground war in Syria or a re-invasion of Iraq, and if can't see that, then you don't want to see it.

Conservatives advocate for re-invading Iraq and invading Syria, but we've seen this movie before. And we don't like it. They advocate for taking someone out in the Middle East, they say it'll only take a few months and then "mission accomplished," but somehow it never seems to turn out that way.

Advocating for the re-invasion of Iraq is a short-sighted position which fails to account for the complex geopolitical situation and would surely lead to more chaos and instability in the Middle East region. Conservatives like to say that because they advocate a U.S. invasion of Iraq and Syria that somehow that means they have a strategy. It's not a strategy. It's a rather inane talking point which they get to spew out just so they can accuse the President of being inept.

[Cassius]

She's great and the video is great. I love the taste of progressive whining over it.

Meanwhile, we're terrified of conservatives arguing inanely for ground troops in Iraq and Syria, irrespective of the geopolitical reality there. We don't need a four-way ground war in Syria or a re-invasion of Iraq, and if can't see that, then you don't want to see it.

Conservatives advocate for re-invading Iraq and invading Syria, but we've seen this movie before. And we don't like it. They advocate for taking someone out in the Middle East, they say it'll only take a few months and then "mission accomplished," but somehow it never seems to turn out that way.

Advocating for the re-invasion of Iraq is a short-sighted position which fails to account for the complex geopolitical situation and would surely lead to more chaos and instability in the Middle East region. Conservatives like to say that because they advocate a U.S. invasion of Iraq and Syria that somehow that means they have a strategy. It's not a strategy. It's a rather inane talking point which they get to spew out just so they can accuse the President of being inept.

How can that part of the world be any more chaotic than it currently is?

[Reaganfan]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?

Out of curiosity, do you consider Charleston a terror attack too?

Sure, in a sort-of homegrown hate crime sort of way.

I just never really noticed until recently how eager liberals are to make sure they do their best to stress anything different than Muslim Islamic Extremism.

"Workplace violence". It was terrorism. Obama says "ISIL" while everyone else says "ISIS". Obama was asked about Islamic extremism and came back with a quip about "Christian crusaders 1,000 years ago."

It doesn't make sense. It's like he's trying to play fair with people we should be incinerating.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/sure-obama-loves-america-just-not-the-america-we-live-in/

In Prague, he said America has “a moral responsibility to act” on arms control because only the US had “used a nuclear weapon,” as though winning a war that Japan started was shameful.

By a margin of 46 to 11, more right-wing conservatives than left-wing liberals agree that the US is the best country, according to last year’s Pew survey. In another survey, when Americans were asked to guess whether American exceptionalism was a belief of Presidents Clinton, Reagan, George W. Bush and Obama, the latter came in last, by a large margin.

Even when Obama claims to support American exceptionalism, he can’t do so without a “but.”

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Guys she's hot, it's ok.

[SATW]

Guys she's hot, it's ok.

^ he gets it

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I'm glad we can all, left and right, agree that arguing about the semantics of massacres is much more amusing than doing anything tangible.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?

Out of curiosity, do you consider Charleston a terror attack too?

I would say yes, although Fort Hood is more clear-cut because of the actual contact the terrorist had with Al Qaeda agents.

Charleston is freelance domestic terror. Fort Hood was a third-party Al Qaeda strike on a military base.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

ISIS only exists because of people with her views.

seriously?  that's the ONLY reason ISIS exists?  I'm sure it's Israel's fault too.

I should make it clear that people with her views were necessary for ISIS to exist, but aren't sufficient.

[CapoteMonster]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?

Out of curiosity, do you consider Charleston a terror attack too?

Sure, in a sort-of homegrown hate crime sort of way.

I just never really noticed until recently how eager liberals are to make sure they do their best to stress anything different than Muslim Islamic Extremism.

"Workplace violence". It was terrorism. Obama says "ISIL" while everyone else says "ISIS". Obama was asked about Islamic extremism and came back with a quip about "Christian crusaders 1,000 years ago."

It doesn't make sense. It's like he's trying to play fair with people we should be incinerating.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/sure-obama-loves-america-just-not-the-america-we-live-in/

In Prague, he said America has “a moral responsibility to act” on arms control because only the US had “used a nuclear weapon,” as though winning a war that Japan started was shameful.

By a margin of 46 to 11, more right-wing conservatives than left-wing liberals agree that the US is the best country, according to last year’s Pew survey. In another survey, when Americans were asked to guess whether American exceptionalism was a belief of Presidents Clinton, Reagan, George W. Bush and Obama, the latter came in last, by a large margin.

Even when Obama claims to support American exceptionalism, he can’t do so without a “but.”

Screw American exceptionalism, It's a jingoistic and racist idea that acts like this nation was completely justified even in crap like Manifest Destiny or the Spanish-American wars. Your notion that we should declare some sort of war on Islam is ridiculous also. It's corrupt dictatorships like the ones in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, or Egypt freed from occupation less than a century ago and military blowback that that propel peoples towards extremist movements like the Taliban or Hezbollah. Implying that these people at home or abroad act barbaric because the Quran is stupid.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

"I have family in the military" is a typical neocon excuse for not having served themselves.

[Torie]

On the new right wing TV network One America, Tomi Lahren states that we need to "bring the fight to them" and "put the fear of God in their desert" (that sounds scarily similar to what ISIS would say). She also said some ridiculous statements that encourage profiling of ordinary Muslims such as "radical Islam is becoming the rule, not the exception" and "yesterday's moderate is today's terrorist". All this over the Chattanooga attack.

In my opinion, absolutely everything that's wrong with the 'conservative' outlook on the world. To bring another war into the middle east, to fight against a group at least partially created by the destabilization of the Iraqi government via the Iraq War, is insane. The tight nationalist grip of their outlook is driving the US into fiscal insanity and endless military intervention.

Was Tomi specific about just how the "fight should be brought to them?" We already are to some extent. Folks who yammer away without specific recommendations, which specific recommendations they then defend, are pretty useless really - well other than making Naso et al feel good.   Just why the US should interject itself much further in the multiple civil wars over there, with most of the warring factions themselves rather unsavory, absent clear and convincing evidence, that otherwise with no other options, the terrorism is coming over here to a substantially greater degree, escapes me. It's nutter really, just nutter.

Her statement about Muslims that radical Islam is now the rule rather than the exception, is just flat out wrong of course, and may be animated by bigotry.

[Indy Texas]

And Iranians are going to show this video as evidence that America is full of "Death to Iran! Death to Islam!" fundies, which will do so much to improve our relations or make people any less susceptible to recruitment by Islamist groups...

[ElectionsGuy]

On the new right wing TV network One America, Tomi Lahren states that we need to "bring the fight to them" and "put the fear of God in their desert" (that sounds scarily similar to what ISIS would say). She also said some ridiculous statements that encourage profiling of ordinary Muslims such as "radical Islam is becoming the rule, not the exception" and "yesterday's moderate is today's terrorist". All this over the Chattanooga attack.

In my opinion, absolutely everything that's wrong with the 'conservative' outlook on the world. To bring another war into the middle east, to fight against a group at least partially created by the destabilization of the Iraqi government via the Iraq War, is insane. The tight nationalist grip of their outlook is driving the US into fiscal insanity and endless military intervention.

Was Tomi specific about just how the "fight should be brought to them?" We already are to some extent. Folks who yammer away without specific recommendations, which specific recommendations they then defend, are pretty useless really - well other than making Naso et al feel good.   Just why the US should interject itself much further in the multiple civil wars over there, with most of the warring factions themselves rather unsavory, absent clear and convincing evidence, that otherwise with no other options, the terrorism is coming over here to a substantially greater degree, escapes me. It's nutter really, just nutter.

Her statement about Muslims that radical Islam is now the rule rather than the exception, is just flat out wrong of course, and may be animated by bigotry.

Not on the video, but she made it pretty clear on a clip at Fox News the next day that she was talking about ground troops.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Obama says "ISIL" while everyone else says "ISIS".

...so...?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?

Out of curiosity, do you consider Charleston a terror attack too?

Sure, in a sort-of homegrown hate crime sort of way.

I just never really noticed until recently how eager liberals are to make sure they do their best to stress anything different than Muslim Islamic Extremism.

"Workplace violence". It was terrorism. Obama says "ISIL" while everyone else says "ISIS". Obama was asked about Islamic extremism and came back with a quip about "Christian crusaders 1,000 years ago."

It doesn't make sense. It's like he's trying to play fair with people we should be incinerating.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/sure-obama-loves-america-just-not-the-america-we-live-in/

In Prague, he said America has “a moral responsibility to act” on arms control because only the US had “used a nuclear weapon,” as though winning a war that Japan started was shameful.

By a margin of 46 to 11, more right-wing conservatives than left-wing liberals agree that the US is the best country, according to last year’s Pew survey. In another survey, when Americans were asked to guess whether American exceptionalism was a belief of Presidents Clinton, Reagan, George W. Bush and Obama, the latter came in last, by a large margin.

Even when Obama claims to support American exceptionalism, he can’t do so without a “but.”

Screw American exceptionalism, It's a jingoistic and racist idea that acts like this nation was completely justified even in crap like Manifest Destiny or the Spanish-American wars. Your notion that we should declare some sort of war on Islam is ridiculous also. It's corrupt dictatorships like the ones in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, or Egypt freed from occupation less than a century ago and military blowback that that propel peoples towards extremist movements like the Taliban or Hezbollah. Implying that these people at home or abroad act barbaric because the Quran is stupid.

You must be new. This is Reaganfan aka Naso. A 57 year old man in a 20-something's body. Someone who adores Reagan despite never living during his terms. There's not a flag-fondling, jingoistic, chest-thumping moment he doesn't enjoy.

Nor any kind of vast generalisation he won't apply to attempt to win a point.

But on point, terrorism is not an invention of Islamtic extremists, it's a tactic. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist, the Charlestown shooter was a terrorist ... just because it wasn't related to Islam and home-grown nut jobs doesn't make their motivations or the outcomes of their actions any "better" than the Fort Hood shooter or the hijackers. It's simplistic bull****.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Obama says "ISIL" while everyone else says "ISIS".

...so...?

He also pronounces Pakistan the way they do "Pah-kih-staan" as opposed to the 'Murrican "Packy-stan" which clearly means he hates America. And hey, remember "Obamaphones"? Good times.