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Question: How will the USA end?
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Peacefully incorporated into larger political union (continental or global)
 
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Peacefully broken into smaller countries
 
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Transformed into new nation via const. convention (parliamentary monarchy, theocracy, robotocracy, etc)
 
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Violent revolution/civil war
 
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Conquered/defeated in war
 
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Disolved into anarchy
 
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Wiped out by natural disaster/pandemic
 
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Alien invasion/destruction/harvesting/etc
 
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Other (specify)
 
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« on: July 27, 2015, 03:59:41 PM »
« edited: July 27, 2015, 04:13:42 PM by Likely Voter »

The United States of America has had a good run as a sovereign nation. It has grown but the constitutional foundation of the republic has existed since 1788 (12 years after declaring independence from the UK). But nothing lasts forever. So how do you see it ending. Transformed into a new type of nation? Folded into some larger global or Americas Union? Or will it be via war, either civil or an adversary country? Or perhaps an extinction type event?  Or will it be alien harvesting.... (It's a cook book!)
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2015, 04:22:21 PM »

It will disappear up it's own arse. Naturally Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2015, 04:41:02 PM »

How are "Dissolved into Anarchy" and " Violent Revolution" different?
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2015, 04:45:01 PM »

How are "Dissolved into Anarchy" and " Violent Revolution" different?
Dissolved into anarchy would involve a permanent breakdown of civilization.  Violent revolution would involve a temporary lapse into anarchy, but new nation(s) would emerge.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2015, 04:53:35 PM »

Other. Donald Trump is inaugurated President
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2015, 04:57:07 PM »

I have always assumed a gradual dissolution into anarchy, but I always assumed that a few new nations might emerge out of the chaos.  None would be as populous or as large or as influential as the USA.  Maybe LA and NY become stable corporatist oligarchies.  Southern New England becomes a radical nanny state.  The upper midwest becomes a socialist democracy.  The south, lower midwest, pacific northwest, middle atlantic, southwest, and intermontane west become a patchwork of warring states without stable governments.  I assume that something similar happens in most of the world as well.  China excepted, of course, as it will hold together by a combination of collectivism and force for however many millenia it takes for things to stabilize in the rest of the world.  

I also think that all this happens long after I am dead and buried.  During my lifetime, the USA will continue to evolve toward a more stable, more secure, less free, police state. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2015, 05:02:22 PM »

San Andreas fault is the problem. We dont know if a Quake like that hit Asia will entail. I assume either a meterorite or a Quake is more likely to end the US for good.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2015, 05:04:30 PM »

Other: it will end up being crushed under a giant cheesecake teleporting in from the dimension XVI of non sequiturs. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2015, 06:56:43 PM »

Annexed by glorious Canadian Forces!
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2015, 07:05:38 PM »

How are "Dissolved into Anarchy" and " Violent Revolution" different?
Dissolved into anarchy would involve a permanent breakdown of civilization.  Violent revolution would involve a temporary lapse into anarchy, but new nation(s) would emerge.
The word anarchy literally means "lack of rulers" not "no civilization."
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2015, 07:23:02 PM »

Two words:


Hillary. Clinton.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2015, 09:13:25 PM »

Other. Supervolcano eruption  (Yellowstone caldera), asteroid strike, gamma ray burst, plague that decimates humanity..
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2015, 09:15:13 PM »

Other. Supervolcano eruption  (Yellowstone caldera), asteroid strike, gamma ray burst, plague that decimates humanity..

All at once? That would be a very bad day.

....but those would all qualify in the natural disaster/pandemic option in the poll.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2015, 11:14:02 PM »

It already did
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2015, 07:26:02 AM »

We're at the highest point of concentrated polarization since the Civil War, so I think some kind of intra-country war or revolution will have something to do with it. Or this:

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2015, 07:49:29 AM »

Gradually economic decline until it's barely a first world nation. Basically Russia, minus the breakdown of any government institutions.

Eventually, it will probably keep on going that way until it's incorporated into a world government several hundred years from now.
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2015, 09:55:20 AM »

We are losing what made America unique because other nations are imitating what they like and rejecting what they dislike. Any decline is relative. A country like South Korea used to be about as poor as Haiti and it is catching up with America in many respects. America proves to have done nothing positive that the rest of the world can't do.

Our political order is extremely resilient. So long as America doesn't sink into despotism it will keep adapting to technological change.
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2015, 12:45:14 PM »

The right wing will take their guns and overthrow the government. They rename the country the Christian Confederacy of America, install Allen West as dictator, and make Christianity the official and only religion of the CCA, and the Bible is the constitution. Practicing Islam, being an atheist, and having an abortion are all punishable by death. Homosexuality is punishable by life imprisonment, and anyone who identifies as a Democrat is automatically deported to the Socialist Republic of Vietnam and has their American citizenship revoked.

The country's history ends when Allen West, fed up with Canada's refusal to renounce its socialized health care system, drops a nuke on Ottawa, and eventually the CCA becomes an uninhabitable nuclear wasteland.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2015, 01:17:25 PM »

Some combination of the first two. I imagine we'll head towards a de-centralized system with increased regional autonomy to compensate for a stronger supra-national authority, such as a theoretical American Union. Think Spain or the UK, both which I think will start breaking into their constituent parts in the coming years, and both which have been giving increased governance to Brussels over the past few decades. Something like that.
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2015, 02:39:19 PM »

Either another financial collapse or Israel getting us in a war
If Dr. Paul says so
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2015, 06:19:52 PM »

I think a secret group connected to the military will secure power and the population will support them.
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2015, 05:03:19 AM »

Likely (hopefully) one of the first two, probably two.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2015, 07:26:06 AM »

It won't. (Normal)
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2015, 08:53:36 AM »

When the world ends.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2015, 12:43:46 AM »

In the way we know, when Jesus comes.
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