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« on: July 27, 2015, 09:28:34 PM »
« edited: July 27, 2015, 09:34:05 PM by Jay20 »

I've seen the absolutely ridiculous Perot-Trump comparison a thousand times, used in conjunction with the Perot spoiler myth (which few in MSM have rebutted yet) but it made me think: if Perot had run for the Democratic nomination in 1992, not too crazy because he polled well among Dem primary voters (a lotta Tsongas guys), most of his views were left of center http://www.ontheissues.org/Ross_Perot.htm  and because it was the party opposite a president (Bush) who in 1992 had Jimmy Carter's 1980 approval ratings, how would that election turned out? Or if Clinton had put him on the ticket?

I'm sorry, its been a while since I've been here, and I forgot how to embed links, and I also shoulda put this as a "past what-if?"
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2015, 11:08:59 PM »


I can see him doing worse in the Northeast than Clinton.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2015, 11:08:16 PM »


304 - 234

Ross Perot(D-TX)/Paul Tsongas(D-MA) - 47.0%
George H. W. Bush(R-TX)/Dan Quayle(R-IN) - 42.9%



Third Parties: 10.0%:

Libertarian Party:
Barry Goldwater, Jr.(L-CA)/Gary Johnson(L-NM) - 4.2%

Green Party:
Dennis Kucinich(G-OH)/Judith Steinberg Dean(G-VT) - 2.6%

American Progressive:
Eugene McCarthy(P-MN)/Rocky Anderson(P-UT) - 2.0%

Populist Party:
David Duke(P-LA)/James Traficient(P-OH) - 0.7%

Others: 0.5%


I think you guys are really badly under estimating the anti-main party feeling of '92.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 12:06:39 AM »

curious: why would Perot win NJ but not PA and VT, which barely went Bush in 1988 (he won by less than 3 and 4, respectively)? Or WV, which Dukakis won? me, I think the map woulda been very similar to Clinton's, if not identical.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2015, 12:49:25 AM »

curious: why would Perot win NJ but not PA and VT, which barely went Bush in 1988 (he won by less than 3 and 4, respectively)? Or WV, which Dukakis won? me, I think the map woulda been very similar to Clinton's, if not identical.

Perot is very different in terms of appeal to voters in those areas than Clinton or Dukakis.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 01:07:51 AM »

Perot does worse than Clinton in the South, but better in the West.


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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 08:42:25 PM »
« Edited: July 30, 2015, 09:46:24 PM by ChairmanSanchez »


304 - 234

Ross Perot(D-TX)/Paul Tsongas(D-MA) - 47.0%
George H. W. Bush(R-TX)/Dan Quayle(R-IN) - 42.9%



Third Parties: 10.0%:

Libertarian Party:
Barry Goldwater, Jr.(L-CA)/Gary Johnson(L-NM) - 4.2%

Green Party:
Dennis Kucinich(G-OH)/Judith Steinberg Dean(G-VT) - 2.6%

American Progressive:
Eugene McCarthy(P-MN)/Rocky Anderson(P-UT) - 2.0%

Populist Party:
David Duke(P-LA)/James Traficient(P-OH) - 0.7%

Others: 0.5%


I think you guys are really badly under estimating the anti-main party feeling of '92.
Rocky Anderson, Dennis Kucinich, Gary Johnson, and Judith Dean were not even politicians at that point-in the laters case, they were not in politics at all.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2015, 09:41:11 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2015, 09:29:13 PM »

Rocky Anderson, Dennis Kucinich, Gary Johnson, and Judith Dean were not even politicians at that point-in the laters case, they were not in politics at all.

Precisely. It's the famous third party politicians of today before they became famous. Perhaps Goldwater, Jr. takes the Libertarian Party nomination.

Also, Kucinich had been Mayor of Cleveland.
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