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« Reply #3325 on: March 01, 2012, 08:07:41 pm »
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Paula Briggs (D-VT)/William Matthews (D-CA) - 218 EVs
Jim Stanson (R-UT)/Aaron Kirkland (R-WY) - 102 EVs
Alfred Jones (I-TX)/Mark Danville (I-FL) - 218 EVs

Something I might consider doing, but, then again, now you know how it ends.

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« Reply #3326 on: March 03, 2012, 01:18:44 am »
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Read the gray shade as "Red >20%" and disregard DC.
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« Reply #3327 on: March 05, 2012, 09:53:02 pm »
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A ten point swing from Reagan to Mondale in 1984 gives the Democrats the victory 284-254.  Looks a lot like today, with a "blue" Northeast and West Coast.  Weird...I gues the "Jesusland" map does have some history behind it...
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« Reply #3328 on: March 05, 2012, 09:59:44 pm »
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Two pages back my friend. Tongue A;though Reagan would win New Mexico by a smidge if just a straight 10% swing. 
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« Reply #3329 on: March 09, 2012, 04:15:46 pm »
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Possible scenario for the election of 1800 in "Where've You Gone, General Washington?".

President Thomas Jefferson of Virginia [Republican]: 89 electoral votes
Senator Aaron Burr of New York [Republican]: 82 electoral votes
Former Secretary of Foreign Affairs John Jay of New York [National]: 56 electoral votes
Former Secretary of War Charles Cotesworth Pinckney of South Carolina [National]: 49 electoral votes
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« Reply #3330 on: March 12, 2012, 10:55:06 am »
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President Lyndon Johnson of Texas / Senator Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota (Democratic): 336
Governor Nelson Rockefeller / Congressman Gerald Ford of Michigan (Republican): 122
Governor George Wallace of Alabama / Happy Chandler of Kentucky (State's Rights): 80
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« Reply #3331 on: March 16, 2012, 10:22:20 am »
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1968: Goldwater v. Kennedy v. Wallace

Goldwater: 270 (40.90%)
Kennedy: 223 (40.66%)
Wallace: 45 (17.44%)

1972: Goldwater v. Muskie

Goldwater: 399 (54.9%)
Muskie: 139 (44.0%)

1976: Reagan v. Jackson

Reagan: 434 (57.2%)
Jackson: 104 (41.8%)

1980: Reagan v. Carter v. Brown

Reagan: 523 (59.9%)
Carter: 15 (28.2%)
Brown: 0 (10.9%

1984: Kemp v. Hart
Kemp: 443 (58.2%)
Hart: 95 (40.4%)

1988: Kemp v. Clinton v. Perot
Clinton: 453 (42.8%)
Kemp: 45 (29.0%)
Perot: 40 (27.2%)

1992: Clinton v. Quayle v. Perot
Clinton: 507 (50.2%)
Quayle: 27 (29.9%)
Perot: 4 (18.7%)

1996: Daschle v. Powell
Daschle: 291 (47.9%)
Powell: 247 (43.6%)
Perot: 0 (7.5%)

2000: Daschle v. McCain v. Ventura
Daschle: 270 (47.4%)
McCain: 268 (46.9%)
Ventura: 0 (4.1%)

2004: Clark v. McCain
McCain: 277 (50.0%)
Clark: 261 (48.6%)

2008: McCain v. Kerry v. Paul
McCain: 274 (47.7%)
Kerry: 264 (45.3%)
Paul: 0 (6.0%)

2012: Romney v. Obama
Romney: 279 (48.9%)
Obama: 259 (48.0%)
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« Reply #3332 on: March 18, 2012, 10:10:24 am »
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1912 Republican Primaries

Red-Former President Theodore Roosevelt of New York
Blue-President William Howard Taft of Ohio
Green-Senator Robert La Follette of Wisconsin
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« Reply #3333 on: March 18, 2012, 10:27:39 am »
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1920 Republican Primaries

Green-Senator Hiram W. Johnson of California
Red-General Leonard Wood of New Hampshire
Yellow-Favorite Sons (IL, Frank Lowden; MA, Calvin Coolidge; OH, Warren Harding; WV, Howard Sutherland; PA, Edward Wood)
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« Reply #3334 on: March 18, 2012, 08:18:25 pm »
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Mike Huckabee/Olympia Snowe v. Howard Dean/Michael Bloomberg

Huckabee/Snowe: 289 (50.9%)
Dean/Bloomberg: 47.8%
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« Reply #3335 on: March 20, 2012, 11:18:22 pm »
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I'm sure this has been done before, but here it is:



D 459 (56.25%), R 79 (43.42%)
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« Reply #3336 on: March 22, 2012, 05:41:49 pm »
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2008
Clinton/Obama: 404 (55.0%)
McCain/Lieberman: 134 (43.9%)

2012
Romney/DeMint: 279 (49.2%)
Clinton/Obama: 259 (48.9%)
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« Reply #3337 on: March 23, 2012, 07:03:16 am »
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D 459 (56.25%), R 79 (43.42%)

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« Reply #3338 on: March 23, 2012, 07:31:17 am »
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 Pretty sure it's Humphrey+Wallace.
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« Reply #3339 on: March 23, 2012, 09:46:06 pm »
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Guess.
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« Reply #3340 on: March 25, 2012, 05:57:24 pm »
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If the GOP was competent, this would be the map they would be going for:

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« Reply #3341 on: March 26, 2012, 04:06:01 pm »
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Fairly certain this has been done before, but my take on a Huey Long survives scenario.  Here he runs on his own party ticket in 1936 as a statement, with little fear that the republicans could win the election even with the split in the dems.  Didn't think up a catchy name for the new party, sorry.



Dem 315
Rep 99
Ind 117
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« Reply #3342 on: March 30, 2012, 01:17:58 am »
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Map showing the electoral power of various Democratic-leaning groups if said groups migrated to a pre-determined area and simultaneously dispersed the remaining native population with equal numbers. Obvious crossovers, just wanted to fill the map out (but Alaska had to be there).

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How did you determine these areas?
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« Reply #3344 on: March 30, 2012, 05:10:52 am »
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In some cases, humor and in others, similarity. It's just a visual aid in seeing the actual size of various electorates.
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1789
With Washington stepping out of consideration following ratification of the Constitution, the main amount of support coalesces around John Adams, recently returned from Great Britain. It is agreed upon by the majority of electors that James Madison, one of the principle supporters and authors of the Constitution, will be elected Vice President.

Former Ambassador to Great Britain John Adams (Massachusetts) 62 electoral votes
Former Delegate to the Constitutional Convention James Madison (Virginia) 38 electoral votes
Governor John Hancock (Massachusetts) 11 electoral votes
General George Washington (Virginia) 8 electoral votes
Former Governor John Rutledge (South Carolina) 7 electoral votes
Governor George Clinton (New York) 6 electoral votes
Former Governor Edward Telfair (Georgia) 4 electoral votes
Former President of the Continental Congress Samuel Huntington (Connecticut) 3 electoral votes

1792
Among Adams' cabinet are Secretary of State John Jay, Treasury Secretary John Hancock, and Attorney General John Marshall. During his first term, President Adams presides over the federal bailout of the states in 1791--engineered by freshman Congressman Alexander Hamilton of New York, the creation of the cabinet and federal departments, passing of a number of pieces of legislation, and the establishment of the national capital on a peninsula in Maryland, overlooking the Potomac. In 1792, the Republican party forms, and Vice President James Madison, like Adams a centrist and a nationalist, is assaulted from both the right and the left for the Vice Presidency, but survives easily. Madison himself is a Republican, but not as severe as some of the fringe elements of his party might like him to be. President Adams, on the other hand, faces a minimal challenge to his Presidency, with a small number of electors voting for Senator (since 1791) Thomas Jefferson who himself isn't running.

President John Adams (Massachusetts) 116 electoral votes
Vice President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 100 electoral votes
Secretary of State John Jay (New York) 22 electoral votes
Senator Thomas Jefferson (Republican-Virginia) 20 electoral votes
Governor George Clinton (Republican-New York) 6 electoral votes

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1980

Former CIA Director George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Paul Laxalt (R-NV)-418 EV, 53.0% of the popular vote.
President Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)-92 EV, 39.4% of the popular vote.
Senator Jesse Helms (I-NC)/Congressman Phil Crane (R-IL)-28 EV, 6.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ed Clark (L-CA)/Mr. David Koch (L-KA)-1.0% of the popular vote.

The 1980 Republican convention was set to nominate Ronald Reagan for President and Gerald Ford for Vice President. However the deal fell through after a heated disagreement, and former President Ford declared his candidacy for the nomination on the convention floor. On the first ballot, Reagan narrowly came out on top, but did not clinch the nomination. The second ballot saw the withdrawal of John Connally, who instead of endorsing Reagan, let his delegates go completely. The Texas and Southern delegations split between Reagan and Bush, and Ford now took the lead. The next three successive ballots failed to produce a nominee (the fourth ballot was a dead even tie between Reagan and Ford), and calls for a dark horse to enter began. On the fifth ballot, Ford dropped out and endorsed Bush, who narrowly won. He picked Paul Laxalt as his running mate. Angry Conservatives stormed out of the hall, and later, rallied around Jesse Helms, who launched an independent bid.
Bush would easily defeat Carter and Helms and became the 40th President. His term was marked by an assassination attempt, and an economic recovery in mid 1983. American forces intervened in Grenada, and overthrew a Communist government. The President also held talks on weapons reduction with the USSR. He was extremely popular by 1984.
1984

President George Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Paul Laxalt (R-NV)-532 EV, 61.5% of the popular vote.
Reverend Jesse Jackson (D-IL)/Mayor Henry Cisneros (D-TX)-6 EV, 36.3% of the popular vote.
Others (Libertarian, New Alliance, Citizens)-2.2% of the popular vote.

The 1984 Democratic primaries saw major candidates, like Ted Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Jimmy Carter, and Dale Bumpers refuse to enter. Senator John Glenn held the lead at first, but George McGovern’s Iowa victory derailed this. The New Hampshire primary resulted in Gary Hart of Colorado winning, once again derailing front runner Glenn. But the Alabama, Florida, and Georgia primaries were all won by the Reverend Jesse Jackson. Picking up momentum, he went on to win several remaining primaries, and narrowly defeated Hart and Glenn at the 1984 Democratic convention. He picked San Antonio Mayor Henry Cisneros as his running mate, the first all minority ticket.
The Bush/Laxalt ticket won reelection in a landslide, and continued negotiations with the USSR. In 1987, the US military joined Iraq and invaded Iran after the USSR intervened in support of Iran. The war would last 2 years, and cost over 20,000 American lives. The war would hurt Republicans going into the 1988 election.
1988

Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)-287 EV, 49.6% of the popular vote.
Senator John Warner (R-VA)/Senator Claude Kirk (R-FL)-251 EV, 48.9% of the popular vote.
Others (Libertarian, New Alliance, Populist)-1.5% of the popular vote.

Warner was the favorite to win the election, but a series of minor scandals hit him, and he even lost his home state of Virginia (by a margin less then 1%, though) giving Cuomo the Presidency. America now ventures into the 1990s…..

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1796
Over Adams' second term, a number of things are accomplished, including creating the Department of the Navy, establishing a border with Spain in the South, and making peace with France following a short Quasi-War. In 1793 with the death of Treasury Secretary John Hancock, Adams appoints Congressman Alexander Hamilton of New York to the post. A brilliant mind, he continues the work he started in Congress, trying to build a strong national economy. In 1794, Hamilton is placed in charge of crushing the whiskey rebellion, a revolt against the newly passed excise taxes.

Come 1796, Adams absolutely refuses to run for another term given the past four years of the Senate being filled with debate over whether to go to war with France or with England. Instead, Vice President James Madison runs as a Republican with Massachusetts Governor Samuel Adams. Meanwhile, the Federalist party, begun by Hamilton, runs Hamilton himself as the leader of the party, and Supreme Court Associate Justice John Marshall. With the leading economic and legal minds of the Federalists, it is hoped they will win the first truly two-way Presidential election. However, the Republicans pull off a narrow victory.

Vice President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 80 electoral votes
Governor Samuel Adams (Republican-Massachusetts) 70 electoral votes
Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton (Federalist-New York) 66 electoral votes
Associate Justice John Marshall (Federalist-Virginia) 46 electoral votes

Following election in 1796, Madison went about promising "A revolution as important and moving as our first, twenty years ago." In practice, however, he was much more pragmatic. He appointed Senator and mentor Thomas Jefferson to the position of Secretary of State, Pennsylvania Senator Albert Gallatin to Treasury, George Clinton as Attorney General, and in a surprise, John Quincy Adams Secretary of the Navy. Throughout his first year, the major focus would be on slowly down-sizing the army and cutting domestic taxes while at the same time strengthening the Navy, creating the Marine Corps, and keeping Hamilton's tariffs in place. Then, in early 1798, a number of Southern Native American tribes, namely the Creek and Cherokee, backed by the British and in collaboration with Tennessee Senator William Blount, attacked both Spanish and American settlements in the South-West of the country and South Florida. With Vice President Samuel Adams reading a letter written by Blount aloud on the Senate floor explaining the plan, the House and Senate voted to impeach and censure him. Soon, talk of war with the British began and nearly every Republican began calling for such a war, and some nationalist Federalists were beginning to agree. Over the past few years as America had secured peace with France, British attacks on American ships had continually escalated and now tensions seemed at a boiling point. In June of 1798, organized American retaliation against the Cherokee and Creek began. Lead by American military men and veterans of the North-West Indian Wars Andrew Jackson and William Clark, the Americans were effective in practically committing genocide. While historians would judge this as a grave over reaction, not much was thought of it at the time.

Internationally, Spain found itself considering and then going to war with France, and America was readying to come in on Spain's side. With the American Navy, growing stronger by the day, beginning retaliations against British ships on the North-Atlantic coast, war seemed imminent. In Spetember, 1798, American troops crossed from the North-West Territory into Canada. While met with resistance by a number of Indian tribes that had fled there following the North-West Indian Wars, Americans soon found themselves against Canadian troops instead. In October, a formal declaration of war was ratified against Britain and President Madison himself was escorted on one Naval mission and saw the sinking of some British ships firsthand. While in Canada, America seemed to be losing the land war, Madison soon re-strengthened the army and effective military leaders like Clark and Jackson were sent to work there. Thanks to the work of Adams and Madison, the Navy was strong and soon it seemed America was winning the Naval battle and was seeing a draw in the land war in Canada.

1800
With many New England Federalists publicly against war and some even siding with the British, the Federalists were given a bad name and were seen mainly as traitors. Therefore, few even allowed themselves to be drafted to run and in December, 1799, American troops had been forced to put down rebellions against the government in Connecticut and New Hampshire. By 1800, Madison was the hero of the nation and Federalists seen only as traitors and Anglophiles. The Federalists at last nominated two of the few respectable men left in their ranks, Former Secretary of State John Jay and Former Secretary of War Charles Pinckney. Hamilton and Marshall both absolutely refused to run, and Hamilton himself had led some of the military action against New England secessionists. For the Republicans, Madison was re-nominated without question and Senator Aaron Burr of New York was nominated as his running-mate.

President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 107 electoral votes
Senator Aaron Burr (Republican-New York) 96 electoral votes
Former Secretary of State John Jay (Federalist-New York) 27 electoral votes
Former Secretary of War Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (Federalist-South Carolina) 24 electoral votes
Former Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton (Federalist-New York) 3 electoral votes

In Madison's second term, American continued the war with Great Britain. Despite fighting off both Indians and the British in Canada, America was able to make headway there, while on the sea, with the aid of the Spanish and utilization of privateers, America was able to hold its own. At last, Britain, Spain, and America came to the bargaining table. Waging a second war along with the war raging in Europe against the French had cost the Empire much, and they agreed to give away portions of Southern Canada in exchange for an end to hostilities. Meanwhile, Spain was left alone in Florida and even gave away portions of the territory Louisiana to America in thanks for their aid. Madison came out of the deal to be seen as one of America's all time greatest Presidents. Meanwhile, at home in places like New York, Pennsylvania, and Delaware, American Industry was expanding thanks to war-time American boycotts of English goods.

1804
The Republicans, surprised to see Madison refuse a third term, much in the tradition of Adams eight years earlier. Instead, Republicans nominated the hero of the negotiations with Britain and author of the Declaration of Independence, Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson. He was paired with incumbent Vice President Aaron Burr of New York. The Federalists, hoping to at least put out a good showing in order to recover from the debacle four years earlier, nominated Alexander Hamilton, who in 1801 was elected Governor of New York, and Ohio Governor Arthur St. Clair who had served as a military leader and Governor of the North-West Territory during what was now being called the Anglo-Indian War by America. St. Clair's record as Governor was questionable, but he was seen as a hero by the nation. Despite hard work by the Federalists, the Republicans secured a third term with ease.

Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson (Republican-Virginia) 98 electoral votes
Vice President Aaron Burr (Republican-New York) 90 electoral votes
Former Governor Alexander Hamilton (Federalist-New York) 78 electoral votes
Governor Arthur St. Clair (Federalist-Ohio) 78 electoral votes
President James Madison (Republican-Virginia) 8 electoral votes
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« Reply #3348 on: April 02, 2012, 10:55:37 pm »
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This was a fun one.

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The 1824 election if we had an ev calc option for it.
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