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« Reply #4175 on: May 24, 2014, 07:42:24 AM »
« edited: May 25, 2014, 07:43:15 AM by dkrolga »

Bush doesn't seek re-election

2004

Senator John Edwards/Governor Howard Dean (D) - 319
Senator John McCain/Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 219


2008

Senator George Allen/Senator John Thune (R) - 314
President John Edwards/Vice President Howard Dean (D) - 224

2012

President George Allen/Vice President John Thune (R) - 296
Governor Bob Holden/Senator Chuck Schumer (D) - 242

2016

Governor Martin O'Malley/Senator Joe Manchin* (D) - 387
Vice President John Thune/Former Governor Rick Perry (R) - 151

*Vice President Manchin resigns in January of 2018 to run for Governor of West Virginia in a special election after the death of Earl Ray Tomblin. President O'Malley appoints Illinois Senator Barack Obama to fill the vacancy.

2020

Governor Scott Brown/Governor Brian Sandoval (R) - 293
President Martin O'Malley/Vice President Barack Obama (D) - 245
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« Reply #4176 on: May 25, 2014, 01:41:16 AM »
« Edited: May 25, 2014, 01:46:02 AM by Skill and Chance »

The Election of 2092- Extreme Climate Change Scenario



Isabel Martinez (TX-GOV)/Calvin Brown (IL-SEN)  56.7% 390 EV
J. A. "Jeff" Kearney (MI-GOV)/Sarah Fitzpatrick (CT-GOV)  42.5% 148 EV

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« Reply #4177 on: May 25, 2014, 07:36:07 AM »

The Election of 2092- Extreme Climate Change Scenario



Isabel Martinez (TX-GOV)/Calvin Brown (IL-SEN)  56.7% 390 EV
J. A. "Jeff" Kearney (MI-GOV)/Sarah Fitzpatrick (CT-GOV)  42.5% 148 EV

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Good lord!
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« Reply #4178 on: May 25, 2014, 07:47:56 AM »

√ Frm. Sec. of State Hillary Clinton/Sen. Tim Kaine: 423 (55.0%)
Sen. Ted Cruz/Sen. Rand Paul: 115 (43.6%)

√ Sen. Brian Sandoval/Sen. Pat Toomey: 303 (50.1%)
Pres. Hillary Clinton/Vice President Tim Kaine: 235 (48.7%)
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« Reply #4179 on: May 25, 2014, 01:58:00 PM »
« Edited: May 25, 2014, 02:02:07 PM by Skill and Chance »

The Election of 2092- Extreme Climate Change Scenario



Isabel Martinez (TX-GOV)/Calvin Brown (IL-SEN)  56.7% 390 EV
J. A. "Jeff" Kearney (MI-GOV)/Sarah Fitzpatrick (CT-GOV)  42.5% 148 EV

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Good lord!

Basically the Southwest would become like the Solid South of the early 20th century due to the unending drought (and yearly hurricanes in FL).  Chicago becomes the largest city due to migration out of the Southwest and Gulf Coast.  Eventually someone offers a "Newer Deal" for them to keep the lights on and the water flowing (in this world President Martinez) and from that point on the remaining residents of AZ/NM/NV would vote for that party by NY-15 margins.  But the largely unaffected Northeast deeply resents having to fund it, save for MA where migrants from the South have a narrow majority.
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« Reply #4180 on: May 25, 2014, 04:28:36 PM »
« Edited: May 25, 2014, 04:31:02 PM by Jack Enderman, FED-IND »

What the Future Might Hold: Chapter I: Rubio and the New GOP 2016-2032

2016: New Way


Sen Marco Rubio R-FL/Fmr Gov Jon Huntsman R-UT 273 EVS
Gov Andrew Cuomo D-NY/Sen Amy Koblouchar D-MN 265 EVS

2020: One Step Forward...

Pres Marco Rubio R-FL/VP Jon Huntsman R-UT 303 EVS
Sen Brian Schweitzer D-MT/Gov Tulsi Gabbard D-HI 235 EVS

2024: ...Two Steps Back

Gov Gavin Newsom D-CA/Gov Kirsten Gillibrand D-NY ~330 EVS
Fmr Sen Ted Cruz R-TX/Gov Mike Lee R-UT ~210 EVS

2028: Time For Choosing

Sen George P Bush R-TX/Gov Kristi Noem R-SD ~275 EVS
Pres Gavin Newsom D-CA/Sen Alison Lundergan Grimes D-KY ~260 EVS

2032: Comeback

Fmr Pres Gavin Newsom D-CA/Sen Julian Castro D-TX ~320 EVS
Pres George P Bush R-TX/VP Kristi Noem R-SD ~220
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« Reply #4181 on: May 25, 2014, 09:37:29 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2014, 10:14:49 PM by Skill and Chance »

Election of 2096

The Supreme Court upholds the D.E.S.E.R.T. Act, the Flood Relief Act of 2093 and the re-established Civilian Conservation Corps in successive 8 to 7 votes during the spring of 2095.  Relief funds and public works projects flow to the Southwestern and Gulf Coast states.  Chicago and Boston become centers for AI innovation and the economy briskly recovers from the late 2080's depression and agricultural crisis:
 


President Isabel Martinez/Vice President Calvin Jackson 62.7%  529 EV
Sarah Fitzpatrick (CT-GOV)/Matthew X. Chen (WA-SEN) 35.4%  9 EV

2100

Vice President Jackson retires at the end of his term.  But a new advocate for the drought and flood-stricken migrants emerges, from someone confident enough to merge her rival political families:



Alissa Cruz-Warren (MA-GOV)/Nathaniel Morrison (Sec. of the Interior*)  54.1% 334 EV 
Sean G. Feltenheimer (WI-GOV)/Kwame Wood (House Minority Leader**)  45.3% 204 EV
 
*formerly ID-SEN
**Representing PA-02 (downtown Philadelphia)

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« Reply #4182 on: May 26, 2014, 12:01:33 AM »
« Edited: November 09, 2014, 10:13:23 PM by Skill and Chance »

Election of 2104

The story of the 2100 census was the aggressive growth of the Anchorage metro area.  Alaska was now home to more than 8 million people.  Republicans decided early on that their best opportunity to break their 12 year losing streak was to target the South Atlantic states, where locals were growing less enamored with President Martinez's American Future programs 12 years in.  Ultimately, they came up just short: 



President Alissa Cruz-Warren/Vice President Nathaniel Morrison 50.3%  298 EV
Marianne Williamson (TN-SEN)/Arthur J. Cohen (NY-SEN)  48.0%  240 EV

2108- The Sweet Taste of Victory

"And I would like to remind my colleagues Sens. Martin and Velazquez (D-AZ) that I represent more people than they do!"  When Kwame Wood was sworn in as Speaker of the House in January of 2107, he made good on his promise to investigate fraud and corruption in the distribution of American Future funds in the Southwest.  Known as the reformer who broke the back of the Philadelphia machine, he would bring down Sen. Martin, along with the governor of Arizona and Nevada's attorney general.  He was nominated by acclamation at the Republican convention:



Kwame Wood (Speaker of the House [PA-02])/Ken Smith (AK-SEN)  55.8% 402 EV
Vice President Nathaniel Morrison/Erin O'Leary (IL-GOV)  43.2%  138 EV 


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« Reply #4183 on: May 28, 2014, 10:57:59 PM »

√ Moderate Republican Governor: (R-NY) 389 (55.8%)
Divisive Incumbent Democratic President: (D-IL) 149 (42.8%)
Other: 0 (1.4%)

√ Popular Incumbent Republican President (R-NY)): 538 (64.9%)
Extreme gaffe-prone Democratic Congressman (D-CA): 0 (33.6%)
Other: 0 (1.5%)
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« Reply #4184 on: May 28, 2014, 11:00:58 PM »

So you're doing the best dream scenario of George Pataki v. Barack Obama and then George Pataki V. Pete Stark?
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« Reply #4185 on: May 30, 2014, 05:56:59 PM »

1996, Election Day Results

Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole/Governor John Engler (R) - 262
President Bill Clinton/Senator Bill Bradley (D) - 252
Businessman Ross Perot/Former Senator David Boren (Ref.) - 24

1996, House of Representatives Vote

Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R) - 32
President Bill Clinton (D) - 18
Businessman Ross Perot (Ref.) - 0

The Senate elected Governor John Engler as Vice President, after 3 ballots, 53-47.

2000

President Bob Dole/Vice President John Engler (R) - 317
Former Vice President Al Gore/Senator Chris Dodd (D) - 221

2004

Governor George W. Bush/Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) - 317
Governor Howard Dean/Senator John Kerry (D) - 221

2008

Senator John Kerry/Governor Tim Kaine (D) - 381
Vice President Rudy Giuliani/Senator Sam Brownback (R) -  157

2012

President John Kerry/Vice President Tim Kaine (D) - 276
Former Governor Mitt Romney/CIA Director David Petraeus  (R) -  262
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« Reply #4186 on: June 01, 2014, 03:29:30 PM »
« Edited: June 01, 2014, 03:35:17 PM by Skill and Chance »

1940: Madam President



Frances Perkins (Sec. of Labor)/Scott Lucas (IL-SEN)  290 EV 43.3%
Wendell Willkie (Businessman)/Charles L. McNary (OR-SEN) 137 EV 41.4%
Vice President John Nance Garner/Walter F. George (GA-SEN) 104 EV 14.3%

FDR declines to seek a 3rd term and endorses Frances Perkins at the convention.  Angered by the snub, Vice President Garner runs as an independent.  He carries most of the South but splits the anti-New Deal vote with Willkie in many important Northern states, allowing Perkins to win with a plurality.

1944:



President Frances Perkins/Vice President Scott Lucas 523 EV 66.9%
Clyde M. Reed (KS-SEN)/Raymond Willis (IN-SEN) 8 EV 29.5%
Walter F. George (GA-SEN)/Allen J. Ellender (LA-SEN) 2.9%

President Perkins pursues the Manhattan Project more aggressively than Roosevelt.  Initially this meant a less effective ground war, with Republicans criticizing Perkins as a weak war leader in what many expected would be a close race.  But her strategy paid off when nuclear weapons were successfully tested in the summer of 1944.  Following a series of attacks, Germany and Japan declare unconditional surrender on September 29th, 1944, officially ending WWII and giving Perkins the largest popular vote victory in US history.
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« Reply #4187 on: June 01, 2014, 07:31:10 PM »

Battle of the Brians
√ Brian Sandoval/Pat Toomey: 289 (50.7%)
Brian Schweitzer/Sherrod Brown: 249 (47.9%)

√ Kirsten Gilibrand/Martin Heinrich: 304 (50.0%)
Brian Sandoval/Pat Toomey: 234 (48.5%)
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« Reply #4188 on: June 02, 2014, 11:59:12 AM »

1948 (After President Perkins)




General Dwight D. Eisenhower/Harry Truman (MO-SEN)  326 EV 52.5%

John W. Bricker (OH-GOV)/J. Strom Thurmond (SC-SEN) 205 EV 46.3%
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« Reply #4189 on: June 02, 2014, 10:56:05 PM »

President Bush upsets, wins re-election against Governor Clinton



President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 41.35%, 270 EV's
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA) - 41.01%, 265 EV's
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Retired Vice Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL) - 17.0%, 0 EV's, 3 EV's

1996 - Senator Gore wipes the floor Former Secretary Kemp



Senator Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA) - 53.1%, 384 EV's
Former HUD Secretary Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ) - 45.2%, 154 EV's
Others - 1.7%, 0 EV's

2000 - President Gore eviserates Congressman Kasich



President Al Gore (D-TN)/Vice President Sam Nunn (D-GA) - 56.4%, 417 EV's
Congressman John Kasich (R-OH)/Former Defense Secretary Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 42.3%, 121 EV's
Others - 1.3%, 0 EV's

2004 - Vice President Nunn edges out Governor Bush



Vice President Sam Nunn (D-GA)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 49.8%, 274 EV's
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Governor Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 48.4%, 264 EV's
Others - 1.8%, 0 EV's

2008 - Re-Match, Bush wins decisively



Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ) - 51.9%, 325 EV's
President Sam Nunn (D-GA)/Vice President John Kerry (D-MA) - 46.1%, 213 EV's
Others - 2.0%
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« Reply #4190 on: June 03, 2014, 04:28:31 AM »

1960 - Nixon Wins!


Massachusetts Senator John F. Kennedy / Texas Senator Lyndon B. Johnson - 234
Vice President Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.; 303


1964: 16 Years & Counting: The Republican Reign of the 20th Century


Texas Senator Lyndon B. Johnson / Minnesota Senator Eugene McCarthy - 250
President Richard Nixon / Vice President Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.; 288


1968: Deadlocked Nation


Alabama Governor George Wallace / Kentucky Senator Happy Chandler - 145
Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater / Pennsylvania Governor William Scranton - 194
Minnesota Senator Hubert H. Humphrey / Maine Senator Edmund Muskie - 199
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« Reply #4191 on: June 03, 2014, 11:01:42 PM »

McCain's One Term Pledge:
√ John McCain/Joe Lieberman: 285 (49.6%)
Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 253 (49.5%)

Battle Royal
√ Hillary Clinton/Jay Nixon: 281 (50.5%)
Tim Pawlenty/Jon Huntsman: 257 (48.4%)
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« Reply #4192 on: June 04, 2014, 04:27:53 PM »

Was thinking of an alternate history 1960 map...

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« Reply #4193 on: June 04, 2014, 04:54:22 PM »

1976


President Jerry Ford/Senator Bob Dole (R) - 292
Governor Jimmy Carter/Senator Dale Bumpers (D) - 246

1980


Senator Ted Kennedy/Senator Frank Church (D) - 412
Vice President Bob Dole/CIA Director George HW Bush (R) - 126

1984

President Ted Kennedy/Vice President Frank Church (D) - 349
Senator Paul Laxalt/Former Commerce Secretary Alan Greenspan (R) - 189
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« Reply #4194 on: June 04, 2014, 05:56:13 PM »

Alternate history 1948 map:

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« Reply #4195 on: June 04, 2014, 09:20:38 PM »

√ Sen. John McCain/Sen. John Engler: 295 (50.0%)
Vice Pres. Al Gore/Sen. Joe Lieberman: 243 (47.9%)


√ Pres. John McCain/Vice Pres. John Engler: 342 (53.6%)
Sen. Joe Biden/Sen. Dick Durbin: 196 (44.9%)

√ Sen. Hillary Clinton/Sen. Evan Bayh: 272 (49.7%)
Vice Pres. John Engler/Gov. Jeb Bush: 266 (49.0%)

√ Gov. Rudy Giuliani/Sen. John Thune: 320 (51.1%)
Pres. Hillary Clinton/Vice Pres. Evan Bayh: 218 (47.4%)

√ Pres. Rudy Giuliani/Vice Pres. John Thune: 356 (52.8%)
Sen. Jack Conway/Sen. Amy Klobuchar: 182 (45.0%)
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« Reply #4196 on: June 06, 2014, 11:46:05 PM »
« Edited: June 07, 2014, 09:30:42 AM by NHI »

1996: Constitutional Crisis
President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore: 269 (47.1%)
General Colin Powell/Representative Jack Kemp: 269 (48.0%)*
Ross Perot/Pat Choate: 0 (4.0%)

*General Powell is elected President by the House of Representatives. There are immediate calls for abolishing the Electoral College. President-Elect Powell pledges to unite the country.

2000: Gore v. Powell
√ President Colin Powell/Vice President Jack Kemp: 349 (53.4%)
Vice President Al Gore/Senator Diane Feinstein: 189 (43.1%)
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke: 0 (2.5%)

Democrats win back control of the Senate and increase their numbers in the House in 1998 midterms. Efforts begin to repeal the Electoral College. Aided by a strong economy and bipartisan support Colin Powell faced no strong opposition from Former Vice President Al Gore and crushed him in his reelection.

2004: America at War
√ Vice President Jack Kemp/Senator Judd Gregg: 532 (63.9%)
Representative Dennis Kucinich/Representative Ron Paul: 6 (35.1%)

The US War in Afghanistan, following the 9/11 Terrorist Attack saw President Powell's approval ratings skyrockets. Coupled by a strong economy and a nation at war, Americans rallied around President Powell and Vice President Kemp easily defeated Congressman Dennis Kucinich, (who selected fellow Republican Ron Paul as his running mate) in the greatest landslide in American history. Kucinich carried only the state of Vermont by 0.01%.

2008: Going for Broke
√ Governor Rudy Giuliani/Senator John McCain: 300 (49.3%)
Governor Christine Gregoire/Senator Jeanne Shaheen: 238 (48.9%)
President Kemp presided over an end to the War in Afghanistan and received praises for his handling of the conflict, but his focus on the economy faltered. Democrats regained control of the House in 2006, effectively preventing Kemp from getting any of his economic programs through Congress. Citing his health and age President Kemp announced in early 2007 that he would not be a candidate for President in 2008. Vice President Judd Gregg initially considered a run, but decided against it, leaving the field wide open. Governor Rudy Giuliani (who succeeded Pataki, after he ran for the Senate and won in 2000) and Senator John McCain were the Republican Ticket against Democrats Governor Christine Gregoire and Senator Jeanne Shaheen. Despite the economic crash Giuliani managed to prevail in another closely divided election.

2012: Clinton Returns
√ Former President Bill Clinton/Governor Brian Schweitzer: 425 (57.7%)
President Rudy Giuliani/Senator Jim DeMint: 133 (41.1%)

Democrats nominated Former President Bill Clinton to challenge President Giuliani, who was still dealing with the aftermath of the Great Recession and with Democrats firmly in control of Congress, he was powerless and his approval rating dipped into the 40s. In the wake of a conservative backlash, John McCain stepped aside and Jim DeMint was nominated to run for Vice President on the ticket. Clinton rode in wave, crushing Giuliani in the popular and electoral vote; winning the second term he never got and breaking Republican's sixteen year lock on the White House. (The Electoral College was effectively abolished in the spring of 2012, via the 28th Amendment and would go into effect for the 2016 Presidential Election)

2016: Popularly Elected

√ Vice President Brian Schweitzer: 52.7%
Senator Rick Perry: 31.5%
Governor Gary Johnson: 13.4%
Other: 2.5%

Vice President Brian Schweitzer rode into the White House with his folksy charm and no-nonsense approach (and with some help from Bill Clinton). In the first election with the electoral college, Schweitzer won decisively defeating Texas Senator Rick Perry. (Under the old system Schweitzer would have won 457 electoral votes to Perry's 76; a devastating landslide). This election assure Democrats twelve more years in power, with the election of Kirsten Gillibrand in 2020 (Schweitzer chose not to run) and reelection in 2024.
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« Reply #4197 on: June 07, 2014, 09:46:33 AM »

2020: Democrats Again
√ Vice President Kirsten Gillibrand: 47.7%
Governor Jon Huntsman: 30.5%
Governor Gary Johnson: 20.8%

2024: Close One
√ President Kirsten Gillibrand: 47.1%
Governor Chris Christie: 46.9%
Other: 6.0%

2028: The Republicans Return
Governor Mia Love: 48.9%
Vice President Julian Castro: 47.0%
Other: 4.0%

2032: Republican Landslide
√ President Mia Love: 50.1%
Senator Gavin Newsom: 45.0%
Other: 4.9%
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« Reply #4198 on: June 07, 2014, 11:04:02 AM »

Presidential Elections (From 1960-2000)
With the VP as the candidate

1960

Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr/Senator Barry Goldwater (R) - 323
Senator Lyndon B. Johnson/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D) - 214

1964

President Henry Cabot Lodger, Jr/Vice President Barry Goldwater (R) - 410
Senator Hubert Humphrey/Senator John F. Kennedy (D) - 128

1968

Governor Spiro Agnew/Governor George Romney (R) - 255 (42.7%)
Senator Edmund Muskie/Senator Eugene McCarthy (D) - 224 (44.2%)
General Curtis LeMay/Governor George Wallace (AIP) - 59 (13.1%)

Senator Muskie is elected by the House and Senator McCarthy by the Senate.

1972

President Edmund Muskie/Vice President Eugene McCarthy (D) - 488
Governor Spiro Agnew/Congressman Gerald Ford (R) - 50

1976

Senator Bob Dole/Governor Ronald Reagan (R) - 365
Senator Walter Mondale/Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D) - 173

1980

President Bob Dole/Vice President Ronald Reagan (R) - 369
Senator Walter Mondale/Governor Jimmy Carter (D) -169

1984

Defense Secretary George H.W. Bush/Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick (R) - 473
Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro/Senator Gary Hart (D) - 65

1988

Senator Lloyd Bentsen/Governor Michael Dukakis (D) - 359
Senator Dan Quayle/Secretary of State Jeane Kirkpatrick - 179

1992

President Lloyd Bentsen/Vice President Michael Dukakis (D) - 478
Senator Dan Quayle/Congressman Jack Kemp (R) - 60
Admiral James Stockdale/Businessman Ross Perot (I) - 0

1996

Senator Al Gore, Jr./Governor Ann Richards (D) - 353
Congressman Jack Kemp/Senator Dick Lugar (R) - 185

2000

Former Defense Secretary Dick Cheney/Governor Christine Todd Whitman (R) - 301
President Al Gore, Jr./Vice President Ann Richards (D) - 237
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« Reply #4199 on: June 07, 2014, 11:17:23 PM »

1968: Humphrey v. Reagan
Ronald Reagan/George Romney: 267 (42.1%)
Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie: 226 (42.2%)
George Wallace/Curtis LeMay: 45 (14.5%)

1972: Reagan v. Humphrey
√ Ronald Reagan/Richard Scweiker: 425 (54.7%)
Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie: 113 (44.3%)

1976: Reagan v. Kennedy
√ Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker: 409 (53.4%)
Ted Kennedy/Henry Jackson: 126 (45.6%)

1980: Bentsen v. Schweiker
√ Lloyd Bentsen/Paul Simon: 280 (50.3%)
Richard Schweiker/Paul Laxalt: 258 (48.7%)

1984: Bentsen v. Bush
√ Lloyd Bentsen/Paul Simon: 328 (52.1%)
George H.W. Bush/Peter Wilson: 210 (46.9%)

1988: Rumsfeld v. Simon
√ Donald Rumsfeld/Richard Cheney: 400 (53.1%)
Paul Simon/Bill Bradley: 138 (45.6%)

1992: Rumsfeld v. Tsongas v. Perot
√ Paul Tsongas/Tom Harkin: 271 (39.7%)
Donald Rumsfeld/Richard Cheney: 253 (38.8%)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: (20.3%)

1996: Harkin v. Cheney
√ Tom Harkin/Bill Clinton: 309 (50.9%)
Richard Cheney/Lamar Alexander: 229 (47.9%)
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