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« Reply #4575 on: May 24, 2015, 09:26:45 AM »

Kerry Surges past Bush to Win 2004 Election
√ John Kerry/John Edwards: 284 (50.1%)
George Bush/Dick Cheney: 254 (48.7%)

Crashing Economy Dooms Kerry's Reelection Bid
√ Rick Santorum/Mitt Romney: 324 (51.7%)
John Kerry/John Edwards: 214 (47.1%)

After Primary Challenge, Unpopular Santorum Loses to Clinton in a Three-way Race
√ Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama: 459 (50.0%)
Rick Santorum/Mitt Romney: 72 (32.3%)
Jon Huntsman/Lisa Murkowski: 10 (16.7%)

Economy Booming, Clinton Wins Second Term
√ Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama: 388 (53.8%)
Bobby Jindal/John Thune: 150 (44.9%)

History Made, Again: Obama Wins
√ Barack Obama/Gavin Newsom: 317 (51.1%)
John Kasich/Paul Ryan: 221 (47.8%)

The Democratic Wall Cracks: Obama Narrowly Defeats Ryan in Squeaker Election
√ Barack Obama/Gavin Newsom: 271 (49.5%)
Paul Ryan/Charlie Crist: 267 (49.4%)


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« Reply #4576 on: May 25, 2015, 12:27:45 PM »



Anyone want to guess this map's significance?

No takers? What about this one:

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« Reply #4577 on: May 25, 2015, 12:39:34 PM »


Best guess... Green: Where you've lived

Yellow: Where you've visited
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« Reply #4578 on: May 27, 2015, 12:35:00 PM »

√ Bill Clinton: 427 (52%)
Steve Forbes: 108 (40%)
Ross Perot: 0 (7%)
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« Reply #4579 on: May 27, 2015, 09:55:34 PM »

√ Bill Clinton: 427 (52%)
Steve Forbes: 108 (40%)
Ross Perot: 0 (7%)

I'm assuming this is 1996, not 1992?  I think you may have even underestimated Forbes' Southern problem.  He may have only gotten Alabama and Oklahoma.
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« Reply #4580 on: May 28, 2015, 01:12:02 PM »

√ Bill Clinton: 427 (52%)
Steve Forbes: 108 (40%)
Ross Perot: 0 (7%)

I'm assuming this is 1996, not 1992?  I think you may have even underestimated Forbes' Southern problem.  He may have only gotten Alabama and Oklahoma.

Yes, '96. Quite possibly.
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« Reply #4581 on: May 28, 2015, 07:31:08 PM »

Christie-McDonnell v. Obama-Biden
√ Chris Christie: 284 (49.6%)
Barack Obama: 254 (49.1%)

Clinton-Kaine v. Christie-Ryan
√ Hillary Clinton: 379 (53.5%)
Chris Christie: 159 (44.9%)
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« Reply #4582 on: May 30, 2015, 11:22:26 PM »


Strange CSA Scenario

Radical Party
Descended from the agrarian, abolitionist Midwestern tradition, this left-leaning party appeals to a certain strain of populism. This party developed during the war from Free Soil supporters and farmers and truly took off in strength after the peace settlement of 1865 in opposition to ceding the large amounts of territory lost to the Confederates. They support a large military buildup in preparation for an attack on the CSA. Also, the Radicals spearheaded efforts to dispatch an army to protect Mexico from CSA attack. Additionally, their economic policy stresses high taxes on the rich, union rights, breaking up of business monopolies, and more government intervention. The Radicals strongly oppose trading or negotiating with the CSA. Socially, the party coalesces around civil rights and equality for Black asylum seekers. Also, Radicals rally around environmental protection and universal healthcare.

Unity Party
Mainly confined in strength to border states, the Unity Party came about from the Constitutional Union Party of 1860. They seek to make amends with the CSA and negotiate a long term peace treaty. Moreover, the UP supports removing some trade sanctions with the South. They have no intention to go to war, as many of the border states were nearly destroyed during the battles that erupted post-civil war. This party mainly focuses on relations with CSA and is generally mum on civil rights issues, avoiding the discussion so as not to alienate contentious border state voters. Economically, this is a big-tent party, but they generally support infrastructure investment and increased industrialization. Unity supporters have been the strongest opponents of prohibition, calling it an attack on their heritage and culture.

American Party
The American Party is an old industrialist party that enjoys most of its strength in New England. They support tariffs on industrial goods and general economic nationalism, minus with the issue of cotton from the CSA, which many Northern industries aspire to gain access too. The Americans support civil rights for the most part, but oppose amnesty for asylum seekers. They seek to limit the growing power of labor unions and deregulate industry while removing barriers to entry for small businesses. The American Party is in favor of lower taxes and increasing the US' strong relationship with Canada. However, they do seek to expand the educational system. The AP is strongly isolationist, refusing to intervene on behalf of Mexico during their fight with the CSA and ruling war out as an option. Socially, this party favors gun regulation and supports prohibition of alcohol.

Western Alliance
This deeply religious mainly Mormon party has struck a chord among voters in a select few states. They advocate for a greater role for religion in public affairs and are strongly anti-war, but also very pro-civil rights. The WA does not trust large government or large businesses, seeking to limit the influence of both in the economy. They remain very socially conservative other than on the civil rights issue, supporting policies such as mandatory school prayer and lessened restrictions on gun ownership along with prohibition of alcohol.
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« Reply #4583 on: May 31, 2015, 09:59:21 AM »

√ Kennedy-Johnson: 421 (55.7%)
Goldwater-Miller: 117 (43.8%)

√ Johnson-Humphrey: 274 (42.9%)
Nixon-Agnew: 219 (42.8%)
Wallace-LeMay: 45 (13.9%)

√ Reagan-Rockefeller: 430 (57.1%)
Humphrey-Muskie: 108 (42.3%)

√ Bayh-Kennedy: 272 (49.6%)
Reagan-Rockefeller: 266 (49.4%)

√ Kennedy-Mondale: 297 (50.9%)
Bush-Helms: 241 (48.0%)

√ Kennedy-Mondale: 340 (52.9%)
Dole-Kirkpatrick: 198 (46.1%)

√ Kemp-Powell: 325 (51.9%)
Mondale-Feinstein: 213 (47.1%)

√ Kemp-Powell: 452 (58.2%)
Clinton-Gore: 86 (40.7%)

√ Powell-Wilson: 384 (53.6%)
Tsongas-Casey: 154 (44.7%)

√ Powell-Wilson: 520 (61.5%)
Bradley-Dean: 18 (36.9%)

√ Pataki-Snowe: 337 (53.2%)
Boxer-Clark: 201 (45.8%)

√ Kennedy-Warner: 303 (51.1%)
Pataki-Snowe: 235 (47.8%)

√ Kennedy-Warner: 498 (51.2%)
Romney-Crist: 16 (28.8%)
Huckabee-Palin: 24 (18.7%)

35. John F. Kennedy: 1961-1969
36. Lyndon Johnson: 1969-1973

37. Ronald Reagan: 1973-1977
38. Birch Bayh: 1977-1981*
39. Robert F. Kennedy: 1981-1989

41. Jack Kemp: 1989-1997
42. Colin Powell: 1997-2005
43. George Pataki: 2005-2009

44. John F. Kennedy, Jr.: 2009-Present
*Did not seek reelection, after wife's death in 1979.
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« Reply #4584 on: June 01, 2015, 12:52:07 AM »

2004

Former Senator Lawrence Pressler (D-SD)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) 280 electoral votes
President Christian Mattingly (R-MI)/Vice President ? (R-?) 258 electoral votes
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« Reply #4585 on: June 01, 2015, 02:38:03 AM »



Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX) / Vice Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA): 38%; 320 Electoral Votes
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Senator Al Gore (D-TN): 34%; 181 Electoral Votes
President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN): 27%; 37 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #4586 on: June 02, 2015, 04:36:11 PM »

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« Reply #4587 on: June 02, 2015, 07:23:47 PM »

√ Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen: 273 (49.6%)
George Bush/Dan Quayle: 265 (49.5%)

√ George Bush/Colin Powell: 461 (50.3%)
Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen: 77 (38.5%)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 0 (11.1%)

√ Colin Powell/John McCain: 433 (54.0%)
Bill Clinton/John Kerry: 105 (40.9%)
Ross Perot/Pat Choate: 0 (4.2%)

√ Colin Powell/John McCain: 535 (61.4%)
Bill Bradley/Joe Lieberman: 3 (37.0%)

√ John McCain/Jeb Bush: 398 (54.9%)
Al Gore/Joe Biden: 140 (44.1%)

√ John Edwards/Russ Feingold: 388 (53.6%)∆
John McCain/Jeb Bush: 150 (44.9%)
∆ President John Edwards resigns in 2010, after it is revealed he committed adultery during the '08 campaign fathered a lovechild and used campaign money to hide his mistress and mother of his daughter, Vice President Fiengold assumes the Presidency, becoming the first Jewish President in the Nation's history.

√ Russ Feingold/Sherrod Brown (49.3%)
Rudy Giuliani/Tim Pawlenty: 268 (49.5%)
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« Reply #4588 on: June 02, 2015, 11:57:43 PM »

I was with you until NY and MN in that 2012 map.
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« Reply #4589 on: June 04, 2015, 04:19:31 PM »

1856 - 1st Democratic Presidential Ballot.
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« Reply #4590 on: June 06, 2015, 03:47:17 PM »

Romney-Ryan: 269 (62,934,407) 48.69%
Obama-Biden: 269 (63,918,507) 49.45%


√ Obama-Gillibrand: 290 (66,314,111) 50.53%
Romney-Ryan: 248 (63,901,311) 48.69%

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« Reply #4591 on: June 06, 2015, 04:11:42 PM »

Try to guess the significance of this map:



The colors are interchangeable, and the meaning of the map is purely historical (not political).
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« Reply #4592 on: June 06, 2015, 04:19:46 PM »

Romney-Ryan: 269 (62,934,407) 48.69%
Obama-Biden: 269 (63,918,507) 49.45%


√ Obama-Gillibrand: 290 (66,314,111) 50.53%
Romney-Ryan: 248 (63,901,311) 48.69%



This must be Obama doing Cleveland 2.0?  In any scenario where Obama wins the PV in 2008, Democrats would have easily controlled 26 states in the House*.  Assuming it is 2012, do you think enough of the PA/OH/MI/WI/NH R's would give their states to Obama to shield themselves in 2014 since Romney already has 26 states in the bag?  

*Note that if you flip all of the narrow Dem senate wins in 2008, they only pick up VA and NM in a close national election.  Then have Johnson retire and Landrieu lose the runoff.  The senate stays 51D/49R, but Lieberman presumably votes for Palin so we would have a chance at an Obama/Palin administration!
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« Reply #4593 on: June 06, 2015, 08:31:17 PM »
« Edited: July 03, 2015, 01:39:30 PM by Cathcon »

1996 Republican Primaries

Blue - Former Vice President Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire
Green - Senator Larry Pressler of South Dakota
Yellow - Former White House Communications Director Patrick J. Buchanan of Virginia
Red - Former Governor Robert P. Casey of Pennsylvania

2000 Democratic Primaries

Blue - Governor Willard "Mitt" Romney of Massachusetts
Red - Former Senator Scott Westman of Montana
Green - Senator Albert Gore Jr. of Tennessee

2000 Republican Primaries

Blue - Governor Christian Mattingly of Michigan
Green - Senator David MacKenzie of Vermont
Red - Senator Elizabeth "Liddy" Dole of North Carolina

2004 Democratic Primaries

Red - Former Senator Larry Pressler of South Dakota
Blue - Senator Jean Carnahan of Missouri
Green - Former Governor Howard Dean of Vermont

2008 Republican Primaries

Blue - Senator Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York
Red - General Wesley Clark of Arkansas
Green - Congressman Glenn Pichard of Illinois
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« Reply #4594 on: June 06, 2015, 09:27:42 PM »

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« Reply #4595 on: June 07, 2015, 06:25:17 PM »

Fait accompli

2016
√ Hillary Clinton/Martin Heinrich: 374 (53.9%)
Ted Cruz/Carly Fiorina: 164 (44.7%)

√ Hillary Clinton/Martin Heinrich: 395 (54.2%)
Tom Cotton/Kelly Ayotte: 143 (44.9%)
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« Reply #4596 on: June 08, 2015, 09:59:37 PM »

√ Robert Todd Lincoln: 306 (52.9%)
William Jennings Bryan: 141 (45.9%)

√ Robert Todd Lincoln: 338 (53.6%)
William Jennings Bryan: 109 (44.0%)

√ William McKinley: 245 (50.0%)
Alton Parker: 231 (48.9%)

√ William Jennings Byran: 243 (48.5%)
William McKinley: 240 (47.9%)

√ William Jennings Bryan: 304 (52.9%)
William Howard Taft: 227 (45.1%)

√ Woodrow Wilson: 272 (47.6%)
Coleman Du Pont: 259 (47.7%)

√ Leonard Wood: 392 (59.0%)
Woodrow Wilson: 139 (37.9%)
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« Reply #4597 on: June 10, 2015, 06:01:27 PM »



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« Reply #4598 on: June 10, 2015, 06:26:38 PM »


Bernie sanders vs Rand Paul?
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« Reply #4599 on: June 10, 2015, 06:50:52 PM »


Actually, it depicts 2012 with a uniform 5% swing from Obama to Romney.
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