Post random maps here

[NHI]

Lyin' Ted Fumbles in IA, Trump vs. Rubio

Donald Trump: 58% PV (1420)

Marco Rubio: 39% PV (600)

Other: 4%

Warren Takes the Plunge, Battle Royale for the Democrats

Hillary Clinton: 53% PV (2,489)

Elizabeth Warren: 45% PV  (1,781)

Trump Shakes up the Electoral Map to Win a Close Election against HRC

Donald Trump: 272 (50.0%)

Hillary Clinton: 266 (48.9%)

[GLPman]

Joe in '04 - Part 2 (See p. 211)

2008 Presidential Election

President Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)/Vice President Wesley Clark (D-AR): 278 EVs
Fmr. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA): 260 EVs

2012 Democratic Presidential Primaries

Senator Russ Feingold (green)
Senator Jim Webb (blue)
Vice President Wesley Clark (red)

2012 Republican Presidential Primaries

Governor Chris Christie (blue)
Governor Rick Perry (red)
Former Governor Tim Pawlenty (yellow)
Congressman Ron Paul (green)

[Bakersfield Uber Alles]

Joe in '04 - Part 2 (See p. 211)

Interesting. What does the 2004 Democratic map look like?

[Slow Learner]

For want of a caucus: 2008 presidential election

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA): 290 EVs, 53.5%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN): 148 EVs, 44.9%

2012 Republican Primaries



Former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
Former Governor Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)

[Mr. Smith]

1976 GOP vs 2016 Dems

Incumbent/Establishment
Challenger
Leftist Combo
Conservative Combo

[MisterElection2001]

[NHI]

Obama is Elected 44th President in Landslide

✓ Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton: 456 (54.9%)

Mitt Romney/Jim DeMint 82 (43.8%)

[Maxwell]

2008 - the McCain disaster

New Hampshire Primary
39.2% Romney
28.3% McCain
12.8% Huckabee

South Carolina Primary
40.2% Huckabee
24.5% Romney
18.3% Thompson
14.2% McCain

Former Governor Mitt Romnney
Former Governor Mike Huckabee

2008 - Obama trounces Romney

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 56.9%, 394 EV's
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Congressman Eric Cantor (R-VA) - 40.3%, 144 EV's

2012 Republican Nomination - Huckabee flops in Iowa, Gingrich takes the mantle

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
Former Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)
Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)

2012 - Obama crushes the Republicans, again

President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 55.9%, 371 EV's
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 42.2%, 167 EV's

[bagelman]

An election between the Nationalist and Social Democratic parties in a polarized US with an interesting population distribution. This US is a federation of federations; while states still send individual senators and congressmen to DC and vote separately in elections, major aspects of state government is shared between groups of states. These federations are:

Northeastern: MA+CT+RI+NH+VT+ME, capital Manchester, NH.

Atlantic: NY+PA+NJ+MD+DE, capital New York, NY

Virginian: VA+WV, capital Arlington, VA

Carolingian: NC+SC, capital Raleigh, NC

Southeastern: FL+GA+AL+MS, capital Tallahassee, FL

Midsouthern: LA+AR+TX+OK+NM, capital Houston, TX

Kansan: KS+MO, capital Kansas City, KS

Southwestern: CA+NV+AZ, capital Reno, NV

Mountain: CO+UT, capital Salt Lake City, UT

Great Lakes: OH+IN+MI+IL+WI, capital Cincinnati, OH

Upper Southern: KS+TN, capital Louisville, KY

Northwestern: MN+IA+ND+SD+NE+MT+WY+ID+OR+WA, capital Moscow, ID

Alaska and Hawaii are not part of any federation.

A major issue in this election is the annexation of Canada. The Nationalists want to just take it, while the Social Dems want to take it on Canadian terms. Canada's economy is tanking under the mismanagement of incompetent leadership and most pundits on both sides of the border, excluding ones paid for by the Canadian government, believe annexation is coming soon.

Based on this.

[Kingpoleon]

In an alternate TL, Tim Pawlenty runs again in 2010 for Governor, adding Patricia Anderson to his ticket. He becomes more successful in the primaries, winning the Midwest and the Mid-Atlantic for a grand coalition against Gingrich and Huntsman.

332: Pawlenty/Gingrich(51.9%)
206: Obama/Biden(46.0%)

Others: 2.1%

Keynote speaker Huntsman becomes Secretary of State.

Other Major Cabinet Members:
Secretary of the Treasury: Paul Ryan(R-WI)
Secretary of Defense: Ashton Carter(D-MA)
Attorney General: Jeffrey Chiesa(R-NJ)
Secretary of the Interior: George P. Bush(R-TX)
Secretary of Agriculture: Joshua Svaty(D-KS)
Secretary of Commerce:Meg Whitman(R-CA
Secretary of Labor: Gaddi Vasquez(R-TX)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Michael Berry(L-TX)

[NHI]

Donald Trump

Rick Santorum

Mitt Romney

Donald Trump/Chris Christie: 413 (52.5%)

Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 125 (45.9%)

Donald Trump enters the 2012 race, running as a populist (sans the bombastic rhetoric) wins the Republican nomination over Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. He brings the party together by selecting Chris Christie as the nominee and goes onto win the Presidency by a bigger margin than the polls originally expected by having major crossover appeal from disaffected Democrats and Independents who responded to his message: "Make America Great Again!"

Hillary Clinton

Bernie Sanders

Donald Trump/Chris Christie: 448 (52.8%)

Hillary Clinton/Deval Patrick: 80 (33.4%)

Bernie Sanders/Alan Grayson: 10 (12.7%)

Donald Trump presides over a resurgent economy and a secure world. Hillary Clinton, wins the Democratic nomination after a bruising primary against Senator Bernie Sanders, who launches an independent bid after being shutout of the nomination by the Super Delegates. Aided by a strong economy and splintered Democratic Party, President Trump wins reelection in a landslide.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

2020: Clinton vs. Jones

Four years after liberal Republican Donald Trump loses to Clinton, the Republican Party faces a heated primary, in which true conservative Alex Jones defeats establishment RINO Louie Gohmert for the nomination.

President Hillary Clinton / Vice-President Julian Castro 68.2% 531
Radio Host Alex Jones / Former State Assemblywoman Sharron Angle 29.8% 7

The scary thing is that I could actually see this happen.

[NHI]

Blame it on Bernie

✓ Donald Trump: 294 (49.9%)

Hillary Clinton: 244 (48.7%)

Other: 0 (1.4%)

[This account no longer in use.]

Not sure if it's intentional, but the 2nd ME district is the competitive one.

[NHI]

Not sure if it's intentional, but the 2nd ME district is the competitive one.

It was intentional. lol

[Clark Kent]

1980:

Republican: frm. Gov. Ronald Reagan (CA)/Sen. Howard Baker (TN) - 57.41%, 519 EVs
Democratic: Pres. Jimmy Carter (GA)/Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (MN) - 39.65%, 19 EVs

[Clark Kent]

1984:

Republican: Pres. Ronald Reagan (CA)/Vice Pres. Howard Baker (TN) - 60.80%, 535 EVs
Democratic: frm. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (MN)/Rep. Geraldine Ferraro (NY) - 36.54%, 3 EVs

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Cross-posting from evergreen's "will the presidential election be a repeat of louisiana 1991? thread.

The Bad, The Worse, and the Even Worse, or, Why Peebs Can't Have Nice Things, or, How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love The Impossible, or, Settle On A Title Already: An Impossible Timeline
Who each one is is up to interpretation.
November 8, 2016
CLINTON WINS IN A LANDSLIDE

Fmr. Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 430/57.9%
Donald Trump (R-NY) / Govenor Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 108/39.6%
Other - 2.5%

[NHI]

✓ Donald Trump/Joni Ernst: 310 (51.0%)

Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker: 228 (47.8%)

[Bigby]

1984:

Republican: Pres. Ronald Reagan (CA)/Vice Pres. Howard Baker (TN) - 60.80%, 535 EVs
Democratic: frm. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (MN)/Rep. Geraldine Ferraro (NY) - 36.54%, 3 EVs

What happened to H.W.? And did Walter Mondale put a curse on his own home state?

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

1984:

Republican: Pres. Ronald Reagan (CA)/Vice Pres. Howard Baker (TN) - 60.80%, 535 EVs
Democratic: frm. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (MN)/Rep. Geraldine Ferraro (NY) - 36.54%, 3 EVs

What happened to H.W.? And did Walter Mondale put a curse on his own home state?

Kent's '80 map (post right before that one) explains that Reagan chose Baker instead of Bush. Now, whether or not Mondale cursed Minnesota, I don't know.

[Clark Kent]

I'm engaging in historical parallelism here. 1980 and 1984 (parallels to 1932 and 1936, respectively) are still basically the same here. I was going to continue, but then I realized that the 1980s are probably too late for what I was going for to work.

It would probably work best if you had Humphrey win in 1968, then the economy falls apart, hardliners rise to power in the Soviet Union, and Reagan wins in a landslide in 1972, reelected in a bigger landslide in 1976, and succeeded by Paul Laxalt, who goes on to lead America through WWIII. List of Presidents would probably look something like this:

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy* [1]
1963-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson [2]
1969-1973: Hubert H. Humphrey [3]
1973-1981: Ronald Reagan [4]
1981-1985: Paul Laxalt* [4]
1985-1993: George H.W. Bush [5]

* Died in office

[1] Warren G. Harding
[2] Calvin Coolidge
[3] Herbert Hoover
[4] Franklin D. Roosevelt
[5] Harry S. Truman

With new analogues for Eisenhower (Wesley Clark, maybe?), Kennedy (Romney?), Johnson, Nixon (Bill Clinton?), and Ford (Gore?).

[Bigby]

Paul Tsongas 1980, or Yet Another Young Massachusetts Man

Governor Paul Tsongas (D - MA)/Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D - TX): 319 EVs, 48% PV
Vice President Bob Dole (R - KS)/Congressman Phil Crane (R - IL): 219 EVs, 42% PV
Columnist Pat Buchanan (I - VA)/Fmr. Governor Cliff Finch (D - MS): 0 EVs, 6% PV
Fmr. Senator Eugene McCarthy (I - MN)/Congresswoman Geraldine Ferraro (I - NY): 0 EVs, 3% PV

President Gerald Ford barely won the election of 1976 against Fmr. GA Governor Jimmy Carter by capturing the states of Wisconsin, Ohio, and Mississippi. Against all odds, Ford won the electoral vote despite clearly losing the popular vote. Just like Andrew Jackson in 1824 and Samuel Tilden in 1876, Carter was denied the Presidency due to the electoral college. The next four years were largely mixed. The economy and gas prices improved, but ultimately both persisted in an uncertain lull. In fact, it seemed like the economy was destined to tank again at any moment. In Iran, the pro-American Shah was overthrown by a joint coalition of Communists and radical Shia forces. Americans within the borders of Iran were left stranded in the revolution-torn country, but the Navy SEALS mission to rescue those hostages was a resounding success. Many Americans across the board became wealthier and more successful while other Americans, also across the board, became worse off. Ford's full term in office remains to this day one gigantic enigma, represented by his constantly evenly split approval and disapproval numbers.

The 22nd Amendment prohibited Ford from running again in 1980, a rule that seemed absolutely okay to the retiring President. His Vice President, Robert Dole of Kansas, campaigned against the conservative stalwart Reagan just as Ford did in 1976. What killed Reagan's chances was one factor: compromise. Dole immediately chose conservative Congressman Phil Crane of Illinois as his running mate should he get the nomination, which energized enough GOP voters to bring Dole barely but surely over the edge. Reagan stormed out of the convention alone, feeling betrayed by Crane and the few conservatives swayed by Dole's gambit. On the Democratic side, Paul Tsongas, who became Massachusetts Governor in 1978 after serving in the U.S. House for four years, tested his luck and ran for President. The liberal vote was divided between Senator Ted Kennedy, Fmr. Senator Eugene McCarthy, and Senator Walter Mondale, so the more moderate Tsongas consolidated the moderates outside of the Deep South, where protectionist Cliff Finch dominated. There were immense worries over Tsongas' steep economic centrism, but his staunch social liberalism and support for environmentalism meant that accusations of not being liberal enough failed to hold for long, especially when the three main liberal candidates refuse to cede to other two. At the convention, Tsongas doubled down on his fiscally moderate platform by choosing Texas Senator Lloyd Bentsen as his running mate. Like Reagan, Ted Kennedy stormed out of the convention angrily. Like Reagan, Kennedy was alone in his act.

The 1980 election became a battle between two economically moderate candidates that clung to their parties' respective guns on social issues. Dole, though not a man known for social conservatism, campaigned for the rights of socially conservative causes to expand their influence. He was no Pat Robertson, but Dole took a rather socially conservative line on these social issues once the South was in risk of drifting towards the Democrats. Likewise, Tsongas remained staunchly socially liberal when Dole was gaining in Northern and Pacific states. Most commentators agreed that Tsongas seemed more sincere than Dole on these issues. The polls never agreed. Some had Tsongas ahead, some had Dole ahead, but most had the two virtually tied. Furthermore, two third party candidates emerged before the debates that added to the chaos. Pat Buchanan, a right-wing columnist and former aide to Nixon, ran on a protectionist, law and order platform that attempted to combine the dissatisfied forces of Southerners and white ethic working class voters. Meanwhile, a more orthodox liberal movement led by Eugene McCarthy emerged; McCarthy only decided to jump in after Tsongas agreed to potential tax cuts in turn for environmental legislation during a CBS townhall. Both dissenters looked like they could have caused serious trouble for a long while... until Dole and Tsongas agreed to include them in a debate. Dole destroyed Buchanan while Tsongas destroyed McCarthy. In fact, both mainstream candidates spent more time attacking the third parties than they did with each other. With both insurrections largely squashed, normalcy had largely returned.

Election Day was a boon for the Democrats. In many states, the margin was less than .5% for both Dole and Tsongas, but Tsongas benefited more from the vote switching than Dole did. White ethnics, working class Americans, and Southern Democrats voted the most Republican they ever have in history, but Tsongas gained more from the wealthy and affluent Americans of all political stripes attracted by his message. What also hurt Dole was a slight bounce back by Buchanan in Florida, Missouri, Pennsylvania, and other swing states. The Republicans oddly gained some House and Senate seats where traditionally Democratic voters were repulsed by Tsongas' adherence to free trade and more lax immigration laws, but it was moot: the Democrats comfortably held both chambers of Congress. Regardless, Tsongas' loyalty to the Democratic message was only apparent with his social platform, and the issue of economics was bound to become heated. With the most radical of protectionists and economic nationalists already fussing over Tsongas' self-admitted economic goals, there may be political hell to pay for being so un-apologetically moderate.

[NOT gonna be banned soon]

Old voting habits shall never die!


The Solid south is back after 1992, The Democrats have yet to win an election while losing Texas, the Republicans also have a leg up on New England, the West Coast, The great lakes and the East coast. All Electoral vote totals are the same as their real-life counterparts. Also, I have decided to make the Bushes be from Massachusetts and Connecticut instead of Texas because Clinton would had never won Texas while he was fighting against a Texan

2012:

2008:

2004:

2000:

1996:

1992:

[NHI]

The Donald Keeps it Closes, but Hillary Still Prevails

Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker: 285 (50.5%)

Donald Trump/John Kasich: 53 (48.0%)

Hillary Wins, Despite facing "The Adult Candidate"

Hillary Clinton/Ben Sasse: 323 (51.8%)

Ben Sasse/CoreyGardner: 215 (47.0%)