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« Reply #5425 on: July 29, 2016, 01:09:08 PM »

2016: Let's Make Another Great Recession

338: Donald Trump/Jeff Sessikns - 52.7%
200: Hillary Clinton/James Stavridis - 44.4%

2020: The Military Takes The White House

418: Governor James Stavridis(FL)/Senator Evan Bayh(IN) - 56.2%
120: Vice President Jeff Sessions(AL)/Businesswoman Ivanka Trump(NY) - 40.9%

2024: Another Greek Victory

350: President James Stavridis(FL)/Vice President Evan Bayh(IN) - 53.0%
188: Speaker Dave Brat(VA)/Governor Paul Ryan(WI) - 44.9%

2028: The Statesman and the Jew

339: Mayor Jared Kushner(NY)/Senator Ayla Brown(NH)
139: Governor Ben McAdams(UT)/Attorney General Brendan Johnson(SD)
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« Reply #5426 on: July 29, 2016, 06:27:44 PM »

Both Clinton and Trump drop out the day before the election, so their votes are ignored and Johnson and Stein become the two main options.



Johnson: 359
Stein: 180
 
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« Reply #5427 on: July 29, 2016, 06:35:28 PM »

Do you care to compare the 1976 map and the 1988 map? Very big realignment in twelve years there.
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« Reply #5428 on: July 30, 2016, 11:55:35 AM »



2044 (Democratic victory)



Pres. Ted Will (D-NC)/Gov. Chris Martinez (D-NV): 332 EV, 52.9% ✓
Gov. Bill Mitchell (R-PA)/Sen. Pete Gonzalez (R-FL): 196 EV, 44.8%

2048 (Republican victory)



Gov. Miguel Sanchez (R-TX)/Sen. Jason Blunt (R-MI): 303 EV, 48.7% ✓
Sen. Cynthia Martinez (D-CO)/Gov. Bruce Long (D-MS): 219 EV, 49.8%
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« Reply #5429 on: July 30, 2016, 12:08:09 PM »

Gotta love solidly Democratic New Hampshire.
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« Reply #5430 on: August 04, 2016, 08:14:21 AM »

Dump Trump: 2016
Clinton: 396 (50.9%)
Pence: 142 (42.4%)
Johnson: 0 (3.7%)
Stein: 0 (1.8%)
Other: 1.2%
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« Reply #5431 on: August 07, 2016, 01:25:12 AM »

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« Reply #5432 on: August 10, 2016, 10:38:07 PM »

Fake Timeline Idea: George W. Cleveland

When will it end? Voting Irregularities in Ohio send Kerry to the White House



Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator John Edwards (D-NC) - 49.36%, 284 EV's
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 49.73, 254 EV's

2008 - The Return of GWB, the norm



Former President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Governor W. Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 54.4%, 342 EV's
President John Kerry (D-MA)/Former Governor Tom Vilsack (D-IA) - 44.2%, 196 EV's

Normalizing Economy elects Romney



Vice President W. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Budget Director Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 51.3%, 316 EV's
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 47.5%, 222 EV's

2016 - The Golden Plated Goose



President W. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 57.2%, 419 EV's
Senator Alan Grayson (D-FL)/Governor Dannell Malloy (D-CT) - 39.9%, 119 EV's
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« Reply #5433 on: August 10, 2016, 11:34:45 PM »

Generic Gilded Age Swing States

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« Reply #5434 on: August 13, 2016, 08:02:09 AM »

Cruz vs Kasich vs Rubio

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« Reply #5435 on: August 15, 2016, 12:53:11 AM »



D-MA / D-FL 425 vs. R-AR / R-IN 113. An alternate 2016 in which a socially liberal democrat who won in '12 and is very popular and respected by large segments of society faced off against a family values George W. Bush esque Republican who is blind to the President's popularity along with many other things. This is the last stand of the GWB socially conservative Evangelical big government wing of the Republicans in this world ; in 2020 the mainstream Republican party would be small government social moderates who are still able to beat down the growing nativist and economic nationalist political insurgency.
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« Reply #5436 on: August 16, 2016, 08:49:16 PM »

Pence and Kaine's respective megacoattails:



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« Reply #5437 on: August 19, 2016, 05:19:25 PM »

1812: Madison's Folly
A controversial decision to seek war with Britain topples the incumbent president.

Fusion: DeWitt Clinton and Jared Ingersoll     114 EV
Republican: James Madison and Elbridge Gerry     103 EV

1816: Another Man's Crown
Unable to end the war with Britain, Clinton nevertheless becomes a national hero amidst the patriotic spirit that follows the conflict. His victory cements the union of Federalists and Clinton Republicans under the banner of the National Republican Party

National Republican: DeWitt Clinton and Jared Ingersoll     142 EV
Democratic Republican: William H. Crawford and Andrew Jackson     78 EV

1820: One Man's Panic is Another Man's Pleasure
The Panic of 1819 dooms Nationalist prospects for a third term and fuel the rise of a new political giant.

Democratic Republican: Henry Clay and John C. Calhoun     140 EV
National Republican: Richard Stockton and Daniel D. Tompkins     93 EV

1824: Henry the Unshakable
A prosperous and peaceful country grants Clay a second term.

Democratic Republican: Henry Clay and John C. Calhoun     220 EV
National Republican: Nathan Sanford and Richard Rush     41 EV
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« Reply #5438 on: August 21, 2016, 02:00:26 AM »
« Edited: August 21, 2016, 02:14:19 AM by L.D. Smith »

1976 vs 2004 (by today's standards)

The Winners



George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY): 285 EV, 49.7% PV
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (DFL-MN): 253 EV, 47.9% PV

The Losers



John F. Kerry (D-MA)/John Edwards (D-NC): 282 EV, 48.6% PV
Gerald R. Ford (R-MI)/Bob Dole (R-KS): 256 EV, 48.4% PV


...It really does come to Florida...
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« Reply #5439 on: August 21, 2016, 02:33:13 AM »
« Edited: August 21, 2016, 02:46:53 AM by L.D. Smith »

1960 vs 2000 (by today's standards)

The Winners



John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon Johnson (D-TX): 270 EV
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY): 268 EV

The Losers



Richard Nixon [R-CA]/Henry C. Lodge Jr [R-MA]: 306 EV
Al Gore [D-TN]/Joe Lieberman [D-CT]: 232 EV
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« Reply #5440 on: August 21, 2016, 03:09:27 AM »
« Edited: August 21, 2016, 03:22:54 AM by L.D. Smith »

1960 vs 1976 (today's standards)

Nixon vs Carter



277 EV
261 EV

Kennedy vs Ford



332 EV
206 EV
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« Reply #5441 on: August 24, 2016, 08:50:39 PM »


Arizona: Flake 53%, Synema 42%
California: Feinstein 60%, Wyman 40%
Connecticut: Murphy 62%, Some Guy 37%
Delaware: Carper 61%, Some Guy 36%
Florida: Scott 49%, Graham 49%
Hawaii: Hanabusa 70%, Cavasso 30%
Indiana: Brooks 57%, Donnelly 38%
Maine: LePage 50%, King 48%
Maryland: Cardin 56%, Some Chick 42%
Massachusetts: Warren 58%, Gomez 42%
Michigan: Stabenow 56%, Miller 40%
Minnesota: Klobuchar 51%, Some Guy 46%
Mississippi: Wicker 62%, Some Black Guy 36%
Missouri: Wagner 51%, McCaskill 44%
Montana: Zinke 52%, Tester 44%
Nebraska: Fischer 60%, Some Guy 39%
Nevada: Heller 50%, Miller 43%
New Jersey: Norcross 53%, Kean 46%
New Mexico: Martinez 50%, Heinrich 49%
New York: Gillibrand 60%, Some Chick 39%
North Dakota: Becker 52%, Heitkamp 48%
Ohio: Brown 54%, Mandel 43%
Pennsylvania: Kelley 53%, Casey 47%
Rhode Island: Whitehouse 64%, Some Guy 36%
Tennessee: Haslam 65%, Some Right-Wing Nut Job 29%
Texas: Cruz 55%, Castro 42%
Utah: Chaffetz 61%, Some Guy 35%
Vermont: Sanders 69%, Some Guy 27%
Virginia: Wittman 54%, Perriello 44%
Washington: Cantwell 58%, Rossi 42%
West Virginia: Jenkins 57%, Manchin 40%
Wisconsin: Duffy 52%, Baldwin 46%
Wyoming: Barrasso 74%, Some Dude 18%
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« Reply #5442 on: August 28, 2016, 04:32:46 PM »
« Edited: August 28, 2016, 04:39:21 PM by L.D. Smith »

1988 vs 2008 (by today's standards)



R wins by 272.

How the heck 7 pint leads combined became  Dubya-esque victory maps for the GOP is beyond me.


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« Reply #5443 on: August 29, 2016, 07:12:40 AM »

1988 vs 2008 (by today's standards)



R wins by 272.

How the heck 7 pint leads combined became  Dubya-esque victory maps for the GOP is beyond me.




Demographics changed since 1988.

IIRC Romney actually needed even MORE white voters in 2012 than Reagan did in 1984.
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« Reply #5444 on: August 29, 2016, 08:54:45 PM »

Democrats Ascendant

✓ Gov. Bill Clinton/Gov. Ann Richard: 470 (48.1%)
Pres. George H.W. Bush/Vice Pres. Dan Quayle: 68 (38.3%)
Businessman Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale: 0 (12.5%)

✓ Pres. Bill Clinton/Vice Pres. Ann Richard: 502 (62.6%)
Commentator Patrick Buchanan/Diplomat Alan Keyes: 36 (35.9%)

✓ Vice Pres. Ann Richard/Sen. Bill Bradley: 368 (53.5%)
Gov. George W. Bush/Sec. Richard Cheney: 170 (45.0%)


Pres. Ann Richards/Vice Pres. Bill Bradley: 297 (50.4%)
Sen. John McCain/Sen. John Sununu: 241 (48.1%)

Pres. Bill Bradley/Vice Pres. Robert Graham: 271 (49.2%)
Gov. Mitt Romney/Sen. Susan Collins: 267 (49.1%)

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« Reply #5445 on: August 30, 2016, 02:02:06 AM »

A more Libertarian America:

1964:

Sen. Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/Sen. George McGovern (D-SD) 143EV*
Sen. Barry Goldwater Sr. (R-AZ)/Gov. George Romney (R-MI) 395EV
*Primaried LBJ with support from Kennedy Family
1968:

Pres. Barry Goldwater Sr. (R-AZ)/VP. George Romney (R-MI) 432EV
Sen. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Mayor Sam Yorty (D-CA) 35EV
Gov. George Wallace (AIP-AL)/Com. Happy Chandler (AIP-KY) 71EV

1972:

VP. George Romney (R-MI)/Sen. Edward Brooke (R-MA) 246EV
Sen. Robert Kennedy (D-MA)/Gov. Terry Sanford (D-NC) 264EV
Gov. Lester Maddox (AIP-GA)/Rep. John Schmitz (AIP-CA) 28EV

1976:

Pres. Robert Kennedy (D-MA)/VP. Sam Yorty (D-CA) 285EV
Sen. Larry Pressler (R-SD)/Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 237EV
Rep. John Schmitz (AIP-CA)/Minor Alabama Offical 16EV

1980:

VP. Sam Yorty (D-CA)/Rep. Shirley Chisholm (D-IL)
Sen. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN)
AIP

1984:

Pres. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/VP. Howard Baker (R-TN) 535EV
Gov. Gary Hart (D-CO)/Actor Warren Beatty (D-VA) 3EV

1988:

Gov. Ron Paul (R-TX)/Sen. Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 336EV
Gov. Bruce Babbit (D-AZ)/Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL) 193EV
David Duke (AIP-LA)/Some White Guy 9EV

1992:

Pres. Ron Paul (R-TX)/VP. Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/CEO Lee Iacocca (D-MI)
CEO Ross Perot (I-TX)/CEO Donald Trump (I-NY)

1996:

VP. Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Gov. Bill Weld (R-MA) 98EV
CEO Lee Iacocca (D-MI)/Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA) 201EV
CEO Donald Trump (I-NY)/Gov. Jesse Ventura (I-MN) 239EV

2000:

Pres. Donald Trump (I-NY)/VP. Jesse Ventura (I-MN) 0EV
Sen. Al Gore (D-TN)/Gov. Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 193EV
Gov. Gary Johnson (R-NM)/Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) 435EV
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« Reply #5446 on: August 30, 2016, 07:36:21 PM »

1880: Tempt Us Not Thrice

Democratic: Winfield S. Hancock and William H. English   235 EV, 48.7% pv
Republican: Ulysses S. Grant and John Sherman   134 EV, 48.2% pv
Greenback: Benjamin Butler and Barzillai Chambers   0 EV, 3.1% pv
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« Reply #5447 on: August 31, 2016, 07:46:08 PM »

Brian Schweitzer/Bernie Sanders: 418 (54.4%)
Ted Cruz/Bob Corker: 120 (44.3%)
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« Reply #5448 on: September 01, 2016, 01:15:54 AM »

2016:


Fmr. Sec. of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 347 EVs, 49.7% of the PV
Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN) - 191 EVs, 43.2% of the PV
Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Fmr. Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) - 0 EVs, 6.0% of the PV

Senate: 50 D, 50 R (D+4, pickup IL, WI, NH, IN)
Governor: 33 R, 16 D, 1 I (R pickup WV, MO, VT, D pickup NC)

2017:



New Jersey: Fulop 54% Guadagno 45%
Virginia: Northam 49%, Gillespie 47%

2018:

Senate: 56 R, 44 D (R+6, pickup IN, MO, ND, VA, WV, WI)



Arizona: Flake 54%, Giffords 44%
California: Feinstein 63%, some dude 37%
Connecticut: Murphy 59%, some dude 39%
Deleware: Carper 56%, some dude 41%

Florida: Nelson 53%, Putnam 45%
Hawaii: Hirono 67%, Cavasso 29%
Indiana: Young 52%, Donnelly 45%
Maine: King 55%, LePage 41%
Maryland: Sarbanes 58%, some dude 38%
Massachusetts: Warren 60%, some dude 36%
Michigan: Stabenow 56%, Miller 43%
Minnesota: Klobuchar 58%, some dude 39%
Mississippi: Wicker 63%, some dude 37%
Missouri: Wagner 54%, McCaskill 44%
Montana: Tester 48%, Zinke 47%
Nevada: Heller 51%, Titus 45%
New Jersey: Menendez 55%, Lonegan 43%
New Mexico: Heinrich 55%, Wilson 44%
New York: Gillibrand 64%, some dude 32%
North Dakota: Cramer 50%, Heitkamp 49%
Ohio: Brown 50%, Taylor 47%
Pennsylvania: Casey 53%, Kelly 46%
Rhode Island: Whitehouse 65%, some dude 33%
Tennessee: Haslam 66%, some dude 30%
Texas: Cruz 57%, Castro 40%
Utah: Huntsman 62%, some dude 35%
Vermont: Sanders 69%, some dude 26%
Virginia: Comstock 50%, McAuliffe 47%
Washington: Cantwell 56%, Vance 40%
West Virginia: McKinley 60%, Tennant 36%
Wisconsin: Duffy 48%, Baldwin 46%
Wyoming: Barrasso 73%, some dude 24%

Governor: 30 R, 20 D, (D pickup IL, ME, MI, NM, R pickup AK, NH)




Alabama: Byrne 62%, some dude 37%
Alaska: Walker 55%, Berkowitz 42%
Arizona: Ducey 55%, DuVal 42%
Arkansas: Hutchinson 63%, some dude 36%
California: Newsom 55%, Villaraigosa 45%
Colorado: Garcia 49%, Stapleton 46%
Connecticut: Jepsen 54%, some dude 43%

Florida: Atwater 51%, Graham 48%
Georgia: Cagle 52%, Reed 44%

Hawaii: Ige 61%, some dude 37%
Idaho: Little 60%, some dude 36%
Illinois: Madigan 48%, Rauner 46%
Iowa: Reynolds 54%, Olson 43%
Kansas: Kobach 57%, some dude 40%

Maine: Pingree 52%, Mayhew 42%
Maryland: Hogan 55%, Edwards 44%
Massachusetts: Baker 58%, Grossman 41%

Michigan: Whitmer 52%, Schuette 47%
Minnesota: Swanson 54%, McFadden 44%
Nebraska: Ricketts 56%, some dude 40%
Nevada: Hutchison 53%, Miller 46%
New Hampshire: Sununu 49%, Van Ostern 47%
New Mexico: Balderas 52%, Sanchez 47%
New York: Cuomo 56%, Astorino 41%
Ohio: DeWine 55%, Pillich 43%
Oklahoma: Cornett 62%, some dude 36%

Oregon: Kate Brown 56%, Pierce 40%
Pennsylvania: Wolf 50%, Dent 48%
Rhode Island: Raimondo 55%, some dude 39%

South Carolina: McMaster 56%, some dude 40%
South Dakota: Michels 62%, Johnson 36%
Tennessee: Corker 63%, some dude 35%
Texas: Abbott 58%, some dude 40%
Vermont: Scott 57%, Dunne 40%
Wisconsin: Kleefisch 49%, Kind 48%
Wyoming: Lummis 61%, some dude 34%
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« Reply #5449 on: September 01, 2016, 05:35:55 PM »

The Road to Making America Great Again!

Donald J. Trump: 51.9%
Ted Cruz: 26.5%
Marco Rubio: 12.3%
Other: 10.3%

Donald J. Trump: 277 (48.0%)
Hillary Clinton: 261 (46.9%)
Other: 0 (5.1%)

Democrats Divide, Trump Unites!

Andrew Cuomo: 39.7% (Nominated at a Brokered Convention)
Elizabeth Warren: 39.2%
Cory Booker: 19.5%
Other: 1.5%

Donald J. Trump: 363 (50.4%)
Andrew Cuomo: 171 (40.5%)
Tusli Gabbard: 4 (7.0%)
Other: 0 (2.0%)
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