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« on: July 28, 2015, 02:50:04 AM »
« edited: July 28, 2015, 03:31:29 AM by Lord of the Dome »
Assume Puerto Rican statehood could be fast tracked so as to bring it into play before the next set of elections in 2016 for both Congressional houses and the Presidency. Is there any reason to believe that it would tip any of those results one way or another and would it henceforth just become another Hawaii (but with more electoral votes and representatives) always voting massively democratic?
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 09:56:07 AM »
Three more sure D electoral votes.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 11:17:58 AM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on July 28, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Three more sure D electoral votes.
That's why it won't happen anytime soon unfortunately.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 11:37:47 AM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on July 28, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Three more sure D electoral votes.

You are underestimating the population of Puerto Rico. It would receive 7 electoral votes.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2015, 12:31:03 PM »
Quote from: Crabby And His Moron Brothers on July 28, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: pbrower2a on July 28, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Three more sure D electoral votes.

You are underestimating the population of Puerto Rico. It would receive 7 electoral votes.

If 3 million decide to move to Florida, that might change the equation.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2015, 02:49:37 PM »
Quote from: Crabby And His Moron Brothers on July 28, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: pbrower2a on July 28, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Three more sure D electoral votes.

You are underestimating the population of Puerto Rico. It would receive 7 electoral votes.

No, it wouldn't. Just like with any new state, it would be given 3 electoral votes till the next census (2020), where it would then be re-evaluated and given the possible 4 more electoral votes.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2015, 05:15:15 PM »
Quote from: eric82oslo on July 28, 2015, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: Crabby And His Moron Brothers on July 28, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: pbrower2a on July 28, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Three more sure D electoral votes.

You are underestimating the population of Puerto Rico. It would receive 7 electoral votes.

If 3 million decide to move to Florida, that might change the equation.

I don't see the entire population of Puerto Rico moving to Florida, but that's just me.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2015, 05:34:53 PM »
Quote from: Vega on July 28, 2015, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: Crabby And His Moron Brothers on July 28, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: pbrower2a on July 28, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Three more sure D electoral votes.

You are underestimating the population of Puerto Rico. It would receive 7 electoral votes.

No, it wouldn't. Just like with any new state, it would be given 3 electoral votes till the next census (2020), where it would then be re-evaluated and given the possible 4 more electoral votes.
There's no requirement that a new State have only one Representative. It's been that way because most new States only have enough population for one, but Texas started out with two.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2015, 05:58:49 PM »
Doesn't Puerto Rico itself have an extremely right-wing government?
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2015, 06:22:59 PM »
Quote from: Bandit3 the Worker on July 28, 2015, 05:58:49 PM
Doesn't Puerto Rico itself have an extremely right-wing government?

I'm not sure what standard you want to apply, but the Democrats hold the governorship and both houses of the legislature.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2015, 06:28:58 PM »
They had a Republican elected delegate in 2004 (strangely they have 4 year terms), and governor in 2008.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2015, 06:33:49 PM »
Quote from: Harry on July 28, 2015, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: Bandit3 the Worker on July 28, 2015, 05:58:49 PM
Doesn't Puerto Rico itself have an extremely right-wing government?

I'm not sure what standard you want to apply, but the Democrats hold the governorship and both houses of the legislature.

Doesn't Puerto Rico have some very extreme antigay law?
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2015, 07:05:38 PM »
A lot of debt and more democrats I would assume.


Payback perhaps for US imperialism following the Spanish-American War.

Oh the irony....
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2015, 05:25:23 AM »
Quote from: Lord of the Dome on July 28, 2015, 02:50:04 AM
Assume Puerto Rican statehood could be fast tracked so as to bring it into play before the next set of elections in 2016 for both Congressional houses and the Presidency. Is there any reason to believe that it would tip any of those results one way or another and would it henceforth just become another Hawaii (but with more electoral votes and representatives) always voting massively democratic?

I think we'd see our first Green state.
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2015, 07:07:34 AM »
Quote from: Supertegwyn on July 29, 2015, 05:25:23 AM
Quote from: Lord of the Dome on July 28, 2015, 02:50:04 AM
Assume Puerto Rican statehood could be fast tracked so as to bring it into play before the next set of elections in 2016 for both Congressional houses and the Presidency. Is there any reason to believe that it would tip any of those results one way or another and would it henceforth just become another Hawaii (but with more electoral votes and representatives) always voting massively democratic?

I think we'd see our first Green state.

You think completely wrong.

You know, Puerto Rico has elections now. They have rough equivalents of the Democratic and Republican Parties. No other party has broken through. I see no reason statehood would change that.
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2015, 07:23:40 AM »
I was being facetious.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2015, 09:19:43 PM »
welcome to the forum!
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