Hillary Aides Worried about Possible Biden Candidacy

[eric82oslo]

It's called spin, just in case Biden should do well in the opening primaries and caucuses.

I've never liked Biden and never will like Biden. There's no spin from my side. He's pretty much as interesting to me as a glass of milk, and if I could chose between the two, 99.5% of the time, at the very least, I would chose the glass of milk. Why you so surprised? Did it get over your head that noone actually likes Biden (although he's not horrific like Cheney, who should have been almost decapitated for his war crimes by now).

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The media's desperation is getting quite old. And are people really still talking about "white horse candidates"? It's August. That's about as useful as talking about brokered conventions and electoral college ties.

This is not just media story-creating, this is actual Hillary Aides having actual worries.

[Lincoln Republican]

It's called spin, just in case Biden should do well in the opening primaries and caucuses.

I've never liked Biden and never will like Biden. There's no spin from my side. He's pretty much as interesting to me as a glass of milk, and if I could chose between the two, 99.5% of the time, at the very least, I would chose the glass of milk. Why you so surprised? Did it get over your head that noone actually likes Biden (although he's not horrific like Cheney, who should have been almost decapitated for his war crimes by now).

The only thing that surprises me is your insulting attitude and your ridiculous pomposity.

[RogueBeaver]

Dowd says Biden is talking to his family, friends and donors about jumping in.

[dudeabides]

Dowd says Biden is talking to his family, friends and donors about jumping in.

Is...it..happening?

If Biden is nominated, here is your general election outcome:

Jeb Bush / Kelly Ayotte (R) 290 EV 51%
Joe Biden / Joaquin Castro (D) 248 EV 48%

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Dowd says Biden is talking to his family, friends and donors about jumping in.

Is...it..happening?

Please Joe do it. I can actually be enthusiastic about you. I want Hillary to win, my heads with her, but my heart will always belong to you .

[RogueBeaver]

NYT has more. He's beginning to actively explore the idea. One donor says this is a mixture of poll-reading and donor support, another says that Bidenworld has discussed potential messaging with them: third Obama term, run to Hillary's economic left.

[IceSpear]

Dowd says Biden is talking to his family, friends and donors about jumping in.

I find it quite amusing how half the article which is supposed to be about Joe Biden is spent talking about how much the author hates Hillary Clinton. Unsurprising coming from Dowd though, the NY Times' #1 anti-Hillary hit piece writer.

It's simply too late for Biden to run a viable campaign. Hillary has already locked down the donors and Sanders has locked down the activist enthusiasm. If he runs, he'd just get embarrassed again, finishing behind not only Hillary but also an elderly socialist.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Dowd says Biden is talking to his family, friends and donors about jumping in.

I find it quite amusing how half the article which is supposed to be about Joe Biden is spent talking about how much the author hates Hillary Clinton. Unsurprising coming from Dowd though, the NY Times' #1 anti-Hillary hit piece writer.

It's simply too late for Biden to run a viable campaign. Hillary has already locked down the donors and Sanders has locked down the activist enthusiasm. If he runs, he'd just get embarrassed again, finishing behind not only Hillary but also an elderly socialist.

I imagine at least a few big Hillary donors would switch over to Biden if he were to enter the race.

[Famous Mortimer]

Biden got like 1% in Iowa last time he ran then dropped out. I know he's been VP since then so his profile has increased but it's not like he's that much better of a candidate now. I seriously don't know why people think he will take a bunch of Hillary donors but I especially don't understand why people think he will take Hillary supporters.

He will take anti-Hillary people. He will be taking votes from Sanders.

[Beezer]

Driving his Trans Am all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania!

[RogueBeaver]

Fournier and Todd saying Bidenworld dumping cold water on the idea.

[The Other Castro]

Fournier and Todd saying Bidenworld dumping cold water on the idea.

Source?

[Gallium]

Fournier and Todd saying Bidenworld dumping cold water on the idea.

B-b-but Maureen Dowd and Dick Harpootlian said otherwise! Who to believe?

[RogueBeaver]

Fournier and Todd saying Bidenworld dumping cold water on the idea.

Source?

Their Twitter feeds.

[The Other Castro]

Fournier and Todd saying Bidenworld dumping cold water on the idea.

Source?

Their Twitter feeds.

I'll trust The Todd on this one.

[Likely Voter]

Joe Biden knows that a run is not going to happen but the moment he announces that, his political life is essentially over, and so he will delay it as long as possible.  Remember he is the admins point person on the Hill, especially in the Senate. The fact that he is still a possible future POTUS gives him (perhaps a small amount of) more power.

[IceSpear]

Believing ANYTHING Maureen Dowd writes regarding Hillary Clinton is about as logical as trusting in Peggy Noonan's "vibrations."

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Other than Jim Webb, there is very little difference between the Democratic candidates. Biden entering the race would not change that much on domestic issues. When he was in the U.S. Senate, Joe Biden put his country before politics on foreign policy. Unfortunately, he has not done so as Vice President but that's because he's part of a team, not leading it. It would be interesting to see if he can contrast with his opponents, his best option is to sell himself as an elder statesman. Hillary Clinton has failed to do so, her strategy appears to be running for Obama's third term, which is risky given half the country disapproves of his job performance.

The Iraq war, the Syria war, TPP, Glass Steagall, fracking, NSA spying, and the like. All very minor issues.

Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders are proponents of Glass-Steagall, I'm not sure where the others are on that so I can't comment.

Hillary opposes.
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On fracking, Hillary is in favor and Bernie opposes, so yes there's a difference.

On the NSA, the same as fracking, I'm not sure where the others stand.
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Sanders says the NSA shouldn't have as much power. Hillary is fine with the status quo.

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Hillary was one of the biggest champions of the Iraq war.

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Hillary has only recently supported SSM. She opposed it just 2 years ago, and thought it should be up to the states just last year. Bernie thinks that we need single payer, and actually got ObamaCare modified to be more friendly to a state taking up single payer. I'm pretty sure there are differences on military spending, financial regulations, and other policies.

[Famous Mortimer]

Also, Sanders isn't for cap and trade, he's for a carbon tax.

On foreign policy, he's much different. Besides not voting for the Iraq War, he also says he would have gone into Rwanda, which Clinton's husband didn't, he's also less pro-Israeli than Hillary is, having boycotted the Netanyahu speech to Congress and opposed a Congressional declaration supporting Operation Protective Edge. Of course, Hillary wasn't in Congress at the time so we don't know if she would have done the same thing for certain, but seriously, she wouldn't dare.

[Famous Mortimer]

Also, saying Hillary and Sanders have the same position on healthcare is misleading to the point of being a lie.

Hillary supports Obamacare because she thinks its great.

Sanders supports Obamacare because it was better than what came before but he wants single payer.

It's like saying if Paul and Rubio both voted to cut taxes 20% but Paul wanted to cut them additionally to 0% and Rubio didn't, that they had the same position on taxes.

[Spark]

Biden will be competing with Sanders

[Landslide Lyndon]

Believing ANYTHING Maureen Dowd writes regarding Hillary Clinton is about as logical as trusting in Peggy Noonan's "vibrations."

Yeah, I wondered myself since when is Dowd considered a respected journalist?
She is at best the female version of Bill Kristol.

[Simfan34]

It's funny how Democrats used to be perceived as the younger party but between Biden, Sanders, Clinton and Webb that stage will have over 200 years of life on it.

...an average age of 50?

[Kingpoleon]

It's funny how Democrats used to be perceived as the younger party but between Biden, Sanders, Clinton and Webb that stage will have over 200 years of life on it.

...an average age of 50?

Between the likely front runners of Sanders, Biden, and Clinton, the average age is over seventy. Gonna get those young votes, eh?