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« on: July 31, 2015, 09:25:45 PM »

I think they are not. They just pretend to support equality while in fact they don't understand its very concept.
Liberals can't accept all other point of views. They think that their agenda is the only right one and everyone should follow it. They constantly bash conservatives for being not tolerant enough while in fact they are not tolerant towards conservatives themselves. That's just because they can't understand other opinions. They are the biggest liars in the world.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2015, 09:39:57 PM »

Well yes troll, some things (misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, and racism) are intolerable.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2015, 09:54:04 PM »

lol

Liberalism, in theory, is in favor of reducing inequality through the social safety net, but it does continue to allow inequality to exist to some extent, like any capitalist ideology.

The OP, however, is idiotic. Idiotic beliefs can and should be criticized, and if you think that goes against equality, you don't understand the concept.
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2015, 02:06:33 PM »

I think they are not. They just pretend to support equality while in fact they don't understand its very concept.
Liberals can't accept all other point of views. They think that their agenda is the only right one and everyone should follow it. They constantly bash conservatives for being not tolerant enough while in fact they are not tolerant towards conservatives themselves. That's just because they can't understand other opinions. They are the biggest liars in the world.

Atlas forum operates at a higher level of baseline intelligence than this. Get your head out of the sand and contribute something more interesting or insightful to this forum.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2015, 02:08:12 PM »

Seriously, what a stupid thread.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2015, 02:46:02 PM »

go away nazi
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2015, 02:58:10 PM »


Nice job proving the OP's point.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2015, 04:56:45 PM »

I think they are not. They just pretend to support equality while in fact they don't understand its very concept.
Liberals can't accept all other point of views. They think that their agenda is the only right one and everyone should follow it. They constantly bash conservatives for being not tolerant enough while in fact they are not tolerant towards conservatives themselves. That's just because they can't understand other opinions. They are the biggest liars in the world.

Tolerance and equality are different things.    Modern liberals often support equality, and occasionally support tolerance.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2015, 06:12:05 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2015, 10:29:47 AM »

Huh

I'm not a liberal so I'm not exactly sure how I can prove a point about liberals?
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2015, 11:29:48 AM »

I think they are not. They just pretend to support equality while in fact they don't understand its very concept.
Liberals can't accept all other point of views. They think that their agenda is the only right one and everyone should follow it. They constantly bash conservatives for being not tolerant enough while in fact they are not tolerant towards conservatives themselves. That's just because they can't understand other opinions. They are the biggest liars in the world.

Atlas forum operates at a higher level of baseline intelligence than this. Get your head out of the sand and contribute something more interesting or insightful to this forum.


Although blunt and perhaps a bit condescending, this is entirely accurate.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2015, 11:59:44 AM »

Yes, liberals are by definition those that hold the fanciful notion of equality of fact.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2015, 01:13:20 PM »

Does anyone know if Naso has a much much younger brother?  That might explain Ironfist.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2015, 10:17:28 PM »

Yes, liberals are by definition those that hold the fanciful notion of equality of fact.

I see from your post and username that you're an HP. Welcome to the forum.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2015, 10:33:40 PM »

I don't think liberals are evil or anything like that, just somewhat misguided and overbearing.

They certainly believe in helping out groups that have historically been screwed over which is a good thing.

I don't agree with some of their stances.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2015, 10:31:05 PM »

Equality is one of these words everyone says they're for, yet no one can agree on the definition of.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2015, 11:28:22 PM »

Equality is one of these words everyone says they're for, yet no one can agree on the definition of.

True.  I don't care much for the term.  Much like "tolerance," it is very nebulous.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2015, 10:43:05 AM »

They'll tell you ''we don't have to be tolerant of intolerance!'' (see the first reply to this thread, for example). Of course, to them, ''intolerance'' is pretty much any disagreement with their cultural agenda whatsoever.

A statement or position is not automatically wrong because it strikes leftists as ''intolerant''. Leftists are not the sole arbiters of morality, and there's good reason to be intolerant of their cultural agenda.
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2015, 11:29:02 AM »

They'll tell you ''we don't have to be tolerant of intolerance!'' (see the first reply to this thread, for example). Of course, to them, ''intolerance'' is pretty much any disagreement with their cultural agenda whatsoever.

A statement or position is not automatically wrong because it strikes leftists as ''intolerant''. Leftists are not the sole arbiters of morality, and there's good reason to be intolerant of their cultural agenda.

This is true, though I understand from a secular humanist worldview why leftists see things the way they do.  I reject this paradigm, hence why I disagree with their philosophy.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2015, 12:57:18 PM »

They'll tell you ''we don't have to be tolerant of intolerance!'' (see the first reply to this thread, for example). Of course, to them, ''intolerance'' is pretty much any disagreement with their cultural agenda whatsoever.

A statement or position is not automatically wrong because it strikes leftists as ''intolerant''. Leftists are not the sole arbiters of morality, and there's good reason to be intolerant of their cultural agenda.

This is true, though I understand from a secular humanist worldview why leftists see things the way they do.  I reject this paradigm, hence why I disagree with their philosophy.

What makes you equate liberals with leftists? Liberalism, as a moral philosophy is not 'leftist.'
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2015, 01:31:57 PM »

They'll tell you ''we don't have to be tolerant of intolerance!'' (see the first reply to this thread, for example). Of course, to them, ''intolerance'' is pretty much any disagreement with their cultural agenda whatsoever.

A statement or position is not automatically wrong because it strikes leftists as ''intolerant''. Leftists are not the sole arbiters of morality, and there's good reason to be intolerant of their cultural agenda.

This is true, though I understand from a secular humanist worldview why leftists see things the way they do.  I reject this paradigm, hence why I disagree with their philosophy.

What makes you equate liberals with leftists? Liberalism, as a moral philosophy is not 'leftist.'

The two can go together, though I should've said "social liberalism" instead; nearly all leftists are socially liberal by the colloquial definition (at least on Atlas), however, so it's easy to conflate the two.
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2015, 01:50:34 PM »

I don't know if this is actually related, but why do people who don't support gay marriage get accused of being bigots and homophobes? I've seen Wulfric, who is deeply religious, get accused of bigotry.
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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2015, 02:18:58 PM »

I don't know if this is actually related, but why do people who don't support gay marriage get accused of being bigots and homophobes? I've seen Wulfric, who is deeply religious, get accused of bigotry.

Because I'm married to my husband. Would someone who says 'your marriage should be invalid' and therefore, your relationship is not to be recognised, your rights are to be stripped etc not be to me, bigoted? Would they not be even more so if they made no appeal to anything but their religion?
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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2015, 09:53:45 PM »

They'll tell you ''we don't have to be tolerant of intolerance!'' (see the first reply to this thread, for example). Of course, to them, ''intolerance'' is pretty much any disagreement with their cultural agenda whatsoever.

A statement or position is not automatically wrong because it strikes leftists as ''intolerant''. Leftists are not the sole arbiters of morality, and there's good reason to be intolerant of their cultural agenda.

This is true, though I understand from a secular humanist worldview why leftists see things the way they do.  I reject this paradigm, hence why I disagree with their philosophy.

What makes you equate liberals with leftists? Liberalism, as a moral philosophy is not 'leftist.'

Well, the cultural agenda that American liberals push is clearly left-wing in nature; and hardcore leftists - socialists, communists, et al - support it as well.
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2015, 01:15:51 AM »

They'll tell you ''we don't have to be tolerant of intolerance!'' (see the first reply to this thread, for example). Of course, to them, ''intolerance'' is pretty much any disagreement with their cultural agenda whatsoever.

A statement or position is not automatically wrong because it strikes leftists as ''intolerant''. Leftists are not the sole arbiters of morality, and there's good reason to be intolerant of their cultural agenda.

This is true, though I understand from a secular humanist worldview why leftists see things the way they do.  I reject this paradigm, hence why I disagree with their philosophy.

What makes you equate liberals with leftists? Liberalism, as a moral philosophy is not 'leftist.'

Denying the value of tradition and attempting to demolish all social distinctions and nonsecular sources of authority .. how is that not leftist?
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