Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread)

[toaster]

Green: 83%
NDP: 77%
Liberal: 66%
Conservative: 33%

If I lived in Elizabeth May's riding, I'd probably vote for her. Otherwise, I wouldn't really consider the Green Party. In most ridings, I'd vote NDP, except for seats where the contest is between the Liberals and Conservatives and no one else has a chance (in which case I'd vote Liberal).

This was my original plan.  I recently moved to Etobicoke - Lakeshore, and was thinking of voting Liberal, but it's now a three way race across Ontario so I'll stick with the NDP.  I mean, sure if you live in Vaughan, voting NDP may not be the best decision, but most places all three parties are competitive, especially if the NDP is at 40% nationally.

[Clyde1998]

Don't live in Canada, so I chose Quebec:

BQ  - 80%
NDP - 71%
Grn - 67%
Lib - 58%
Con - 36%

Economically and Socially, I'm closest to the NDP. Constitutionally, I'm closest to the Bloc - and nowhere near the NDP.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Vancouver Centre has the possibility of being a close race, especially if the NDP is 15-20% ahead in BC on election day. I'll be requesting a special ballot for Timmins-James Bay since I'm living in California now.

Close between the two leftist parties. That's not a horserace I have much interest in haha.

[Qavvavak]

my vote compass result:

NDP 66%
GREEN 59%
LIBERAL 54%
CON 41%

[DC Al Fine]

Paul Martin blasts NDP move to the 'far right'

[Krago]

Here the weekly poll update:

Election (May 2, 2011) / Angus-Reid (Aug 19-24) / Forum (Aug 23-24) / EKOS (Aug 19-25) / Ipsos (Aug 24-26) / Innovative (Aug 24-26)

Canada	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	39.6	32	23	28.1	29	30
NDP	30.6	36	40	33.6	33	32
Lib	18.9	23	30	26.7	30	27
BQ	6.1	4	3	4.1	4	4
Green	3.9	4	3	5.8	4	6

Atlantic	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	37.9	25	21	13.5	17	24
NDP	29.5	30	27	33.9	35	27
Lib	29.3	39	47	44.7	46	43
Green	3.0	5	4	6.9	1	5

Quebec	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	16.5	14	11	17.4	16	17
NDP	42.9	51	54	43.9	40	41
Lib	14.2	17	19	15.6	25	22
BQ	23.4	17	14	17.0	16	17
Green	2.1	1	1	4.9	3	2

Ontario	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	44.4	35	26	29.8	31	32
NDP	25.6	33	36	30.2	32	29
Lib	25.3	28	33	33.3	33	31
Green	3.8	4	3	5.0	5	6

Man/Sask	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	54.9		28		38	41
NDP	28.9		41		20	26
Lib	12.7		28		36	27
Green	3.1		2		6	5

Manitoba	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	53.5	44		29.8
NDP	25.8	24		24.5
Lib	16.6	27		34.1
Green	3.6	4		9.5

Sask.	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	56.3	48		41.6
NDP	32.3	31		26.5
Lib	8.5	18		25.1
Green	2.6	3		6.6

Alberta	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	66.8	58	42	50.5	47	44
NDP	16.8	21	32	23.0	26	32
Lib	9.3	13	22	18.2	22	19
Green	5.2	6	2	4.2	2	5

B.C.	2011	Angus-Reid	Forum	EKOS	Ipsos	Innovative
Cons	45.6	32	21	28.4	34	30
NDP	32.5	37	39	37.7	31	33
Lib	13.4	22	32	23.5	30	25
Green	7.7	9	7	9.3	5	11

[Zanas]

Jumping on the bandwagon for a compass, I took Quebec as well and here goes, weighing the questions by importance :


GPC 77%
BQ 75%
NDP 72%
LPC 59%
CPC 31%

Bloc was even first without weighing ! But I'd surely vote NDP in most of the nation's ridings.

[Hash]

Paul Martin blasts NDP move to the 'far right'

Biebertrudeau's Leftist Progressive Hero campaign is pretty hilarious. Especially considering that prior to the campaign he was far more Moderate Hero (+ Free Weed).

Not that I'll be voting, but here is my Vote compass
NDP 85%
Grn 79%
Lib 71%
Purgatory 37%

[DavidB.]

Since the Conservatives have apparently taken the (in my view quite extreme) position that "Abortions should be allowed in all cases, regardless of the reason", I'm not really surprised that I'm supposedly more conservative than they are.

[Barnes]

I think the only reason that my Vote Compass score was at nearly 50% for the Tories was because I said the ISIS Strikes should stay the way they are - which just goes to show how easily these kinds of tests can be swung.  I really don't feel much of any similarities with the Tories on any issues, and certainly not with Harper in charge.

[DavidB.]

Since the Conservatives have apparently taken the (in my view quite extreme) position that "Abortions should be allowed in all cases, regardless of the reason", I'm not really surprised that I'm supposedly more conservative than they are. And I'm not even an extreme pro-lifer, being in favor of allowing abortions almost until the end of the first trimester. I was truly surprised by this, although it would definitely not be a deal breaker for me.

[MaxQue]

Since the Conservatives have apparently taken the (in my view quite extreme) position that "Abortions should be allowed in all cases, regardless of the reason", I'm not really surprised that I'm supposedly more conservative than they are.

Abortion is complicated here. The abortion law got stuck down in the late 80's and the Supreme Court gave 1 year to the government to pass a new law. The Progressive-Conservative Party (as it was called back then), which had 75% of seats, never managed to agree on a new law (their then mix of social conservative, liberal Quebec nationalists and socially liberal suburban and urban upper class had quite opposed views on this). So, the law was stucked down and nobody wants a law about it (taking a stand for abortion goes very badly in rural areas and if Conservatives wanted to restrain it, they would suddently go extinct in Toronto and its suburbs, making them lose all hopes of ever getting in government until they change their mind). So, the law right now is whatever restrictions the Royal College of Medecine of Canada decides.

In short, Canada is too socially liberal for a party wanting to restrain abortion to win. So, Conservatives just shut up about it. Same thing for gay marriage. And, even if they took those positions, many of Conservative suburban and Quebec MPs would just vote against their party.

[MaxQue]

As answered in the other thread:

Since the Conservatives have apparently taken the (in my view quite extreme) position that "Abortions should be allowed in all cases, regardless of the reason", I'm not really surprised that I'm supposedly more conservative than they are. And I'm not even an extreme pro-lifer, being in favor of allowing abortions almost until the end of the first trimester. I was truly surprised by this, although it would definitely not be a deal breaker for me.

Abortion is complicated here. The abortion law got stuck down in the late 80's and the Supreme Court gave 1 year to the government to pass a new law. The Progressive-Conservative Party (as it was called back then), which had 75% of seats, never managed to agree on a new law (their then mix of social conservative, liberal Quebec nationalists and socially liberal suburban and urban upper class had quite opposed views on this). So, the law was stucked down and nobody wants a law about it (taking a stand for abortion goes very badly in rural areas and if Conservatives wanted to restrain it, they would suddently go extinct in Toronto and its suburbs, making them lose all hopes of ever getting in government until they change their mind). So, the law right now is whatever restrictions the Royal College of Medecine of Canada decides.

In short, Canada is too socially liberal for a party wanting to restrain abortion to win. So, Conservatives just shut up about it. Same thing for gay marriage. And, even if they took those positions, many of Conservative suburban and Quebec MPs would just vote against their party.

[sparkey]

Apparently, I'm a Conservative-leaning centrist by Canadian standards.

[DavidB.]

As answered in the other thread:

Since the Conservatives have apparently taken the (in my view quite extreme) position that "Abortions should be allowed in all cases, regardless of the reason", I'm not really surprised that I'm supposedly more conservative than they are. And I'm not even an extreme pro-lifer, being in favor of allowing abortions almost until the end of the first trimester. I was truly surprised by this, although it would definitely not be a deal breaker for me.

Abortion is complicated here. The abortion law got stuck down in the late 80's and the Supreme Court gave 1 year to the government to pass a new law. The Progressive-Conservative Party (as it was called back then), which had 75% of seats, never managed to agree on a new law (their then mix of social conservative, liberal Quebec nationalists and socially liberal suburban and urban upper class had quite opposed views on this). So, the law was stucked down and nobody wants a law about it (taking a stand for abortion goes very badly in rural areas and if Conservatives wanted to restrain it, they would suddently go extinct in Toronto and its suburbs, making them lose all hopes of ever getting in government until they change their mind). So, the law right now is whatever restrictions the Royal College of Medecine of Canada decides.

In short, Canada is too socially liberal for a party wanting to restrain abortion to win. So, Conservatives just shut up about it. Same thing for gay marriage. And, even if they took those positions, many of Conservative suburban and Quebec MPs would just vote against their party.

Thaknks for explaining this! I already had a feeling this position might essentially be a status-quo position, born out of fear of losing votes. I'm glad that the Conservatives didn't try (and don't want to try) to revert the legalization of same-sex marriage.

[ilikeverin]

NDP: 68%
GPC: 66%
LPC: 63%
CPC: 36%

However, I'm quite close to the NDP on constitutional questions.

[Hash]

I'm glad that the Conservatives didn't try (and don't want to try) to revert the legalization of same-sex marriage.

They did, in 2006.

[MaxQue]

I'm glad that the Conservatives didn't try (and don't want to try) to revert the legalization of same-sex marriage.

They did, in 2006.

One can argue they didn't really tried. They held a vote they knew they would lose to fulfill an electoral promise (they didn't not promised to repeal gay marriage, they promised to hold a free vote on it).

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I'll play along with the compass, I picked Ontario.

CPC - 72%
LPC - 47%
NDP - 36%
GPC - 30%

[136or142]

LPC - 68%
NDP 65%
GPC 63%
CPC 54%

This is the most accurate result I've had from one of these. I think it shows that I don't agree much with Bernie Sanders on economic issues.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

LPC - 63%
CPC - 61%
NDP - 57%
GPC - 46%

I'm the ultimate Canadian swing-voter.

[politicus]

LPC - 63%
CPC - 61%
NDP - 57%
GPC - 46%

I'm the ultimate Canadian swing-voter.

Surprised you got higher CPC than NDP actually, I would expect Scandinavian centre-right types to get the opposite result.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

LPC - 63%
CPC - 61%
NDP - 57%
GPC - 46%

I'm the ultimate Canadian swing-voter.

Surprised you got higher CPC than NDP actually, I would expect Scandinavian centre-right types to get the opposite result.

The Canadian Conservatives aren't crazy, like the Republicans or the Australian Liberals. Being ever so slightly closer to them than a Social Democratic Party based on unionism isn't surprising to me at all.

[Hifly]

GPC-50%
CPC-50%
NDP-50%
LPC-45%

This usually always happens whenever I take one of these dubious quizzes.

[politicus]

LPC - 63%
CPC - 61%
NDP - 57%
GPC - 46%

I'm the ultimate Canadian swing-voter.

Surprised you got higher CPC than NDP actually, I would expect Scandinavian centre-right types to get the opposite result.

The Canadian Conservatives aren't crazy, like the Republicans or the Australian Liberals. Being ever so slightly closer to them than a Social Democratic Party based on unionism isn't surprising to me at all.

Okay, I did not know you were critical of unions (assuming that is what you mean by "unionism").

I get a much more leftists score on Canada than I usually do (fx I got the Moderates in the Sweden test), so I guess all those union/environment questions and the crudeness of some of the questions did it (I am fx for longer prison sentences, but I do not believe it is the most effective way to fight crime), also anti-abortion not being CPC policy etc. I suppose some of my answers also cancelled each other out. Fx. I strongly agreed Canada should do more to fight ISIS  and increase foreign aid. They may count that as right wing/leftist. My strong support of indigenous peoples rights probably also cancelled out the anti-immigration/general multiculturalism votes.

BQ 73%
NDP 69%
GPC 60%
LPC 57%
CPC 29%