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Mr. Morden
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« on: August 04, 2015, 04:59:50 AM »

Congrats Phil?

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/cash-strapped-santorum-campaign-reshuffles-staff-120973.html?hp=t2_r

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He could always go the Lincoln Chafee route, and only do campaign events within driving distance of his house.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2015, 05:04:29 AM »
« Edited: August 04, 2015, 05:06:35 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

If someone had just arrived here in a time machine from 5 years ago, they'd be posting "Who the heck thought that Santorum would have a chance at even coming remotely close to winning a state in a Presidential campaign?"

Anyways, as the runner up from the previous competitive primary, he'd normally get it this time, but the except seems to be if your daddy was President, so that means Jeb gets it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2015, 05:07:01 AM »

After 2006, did he ever have any credibility as a nationwide politician?
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2015, 10:14:31 AM »

After 2006, did he ever have any credibility as a nationwide politician?

No, but it's not like he has anything better to do.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2015, 11:23:52 AM »

Rick Santorum did as well as he did in 2012 because Mike Huckabee's supporters from 2008, who were there to support Huckabee in '12, felt Santorum was their best candidate. Now with Huckabee in the race, Santorum's '12 base is with Huckabee.

Think about it for a second. Would you rather support a Former Governor or a Former U.S. Senator who lost by 18 points in his last election?
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2015, 03:50:57 PM »

The reshuffling comes on the heels of another key departure — Karen Fesler, a prominent Iowa activist who had been aiding Santorum’s efforts in the state. She now serves as Rick Perry’s Iowa co-chair, the latest of a number of prominent Santorum activists who helped propel him to GOP runner-up status in 2012 but aligned with different candidates in 2016.  (Quoted from the article)

Karen Fesler, moving from one loser to another.

Why doesn't Santorum simply put himself and his family out of their misery and just quit thinking that anybody is actually taking him seriously.

In the immortal words of James Carville

The Republican Party isn't going to nominate Santorum for anything, we all know that.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2015, 03:53:27 PM »


The Winfield legacy lives on?
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2015, 03:55:03 PM »

Maybe Santorum can run for Senate or governor of Pennsylvania in 2018.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2015, 05:28:02 PM »

I was a 2012 Santorum voter. It was a protest vote. Santorum only did as well as he did in 2012 for being "not Romney, not Paul."

This year, there is a credible choice besides the "not next in line" pick. It's not just "Bush" or "Not Bush."

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 11:49:09 PM »

Anyways, as the runner up from the previous competitive primary, he'd normally get it this time, but the except seems to be if your daddy was President, so that means Jeb gets it.

I dislike Rick Santorum and disagree with him on most things, but I do feel like his entire political career has basically been one indignity and slight after another.

He carried water on all of Bush's top legislative priorities in the 2000s only to be ignored when he was struggling to get reelected in 2006 - while the national GOP was directing resources to, of all people, Lincoln Chafee. He won Iowa in 2012 but got none of the benefit of doing so since everyone thought Romney won it until like three months later. Now he's technically "next in line" but the GOP is letting a Bush cut to the front of the line.

Santorum's seething resentment isn't unjustified; it's just unfortunate that he can't channel it into something more productive.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2015, 12:04:46 AM »

Santorum had his chance. Its over.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2015, 10:28:44 AM »

If someone had just arrived here in a time machine from 5 years ago, they'd be posting "Who the heck thought that Santorum would have a chance at even coming remotely close to winning a state in a Presidential campaign?"

Anyways, as the runner up from the previous competitive primary, he'd normally get it this time, but the except seems to be if your daddy was President, so that means Jeb gets it.
It's not that Republicans automatically nominate alsorans, but that alsorans have an advantage in name recognition and fundraising.

Santorum was second place in one of the weakest fields in the party's history. He makes a really weak argument that he should automatically have been granted admission to the main debate because he won Iowa, but I'd argue it's the other way around. If he won Iowa and he's polling so badly, his numbers aren't going to get better.

He would probably be better off dropping out, and playing socially conservative kingmaker.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2015, 11:23:33 AM »

Anyways, as the runner up from the previous competitive primary, he'd normally get it this time, but the except seems to be if your daddy was President, so that means Jeb gets it.

I dislike Rick Santorum and disagree with him on most things, but I do feel like his entire political career has basically been one indignity and slight after another.

He carried water on all of Bush's top legislative priorities in the 2000s only to be ignored when he was struggling to get reelected in 2006 - while the national GOP was directing resources to, of all people, Lincoln Chafee. He won Iowa in 2012 but got none of the benefit of doing so since everyone thought Romney won it until like three months later. Now he's technically "next in line" but the GOP is letting a Bush cut to the front of the line.

Santorum's seething resentment isn't unjustified; it's just unfortunate that he can't channel it into something more productive.

Santorum  did the dirty work in the Senate, and voters in a swing state were not going to forgive him. Contrast Pat Toomey, who is even more right-wing, but keeps his hands clean. Toomey has a fair chance of winning re-election. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2015, 11:49:48 AM »

Santorum is finished.  He was very lucky in 2012 as the only policy wonk on the far right, aside from newt, who was plainly crazy.
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2015, 06:53:30 PM »

In the olden days (pre Citizens United) Santorum would be your standard summer drop out candidate. He is polling badly, denied access to the main debate and has poor fundraising. But it seems his campaign is going to go into zombie mode. The era of the Super Pac has allowed dead campaigns to reanimate as the undead by running operations out of the Super Pac. Foster Fries can keep Rick going via unlimited donations. Of course when he gets bored with Rick, then it is really over.
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