NE1: Term Limits Amendment (passed)

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

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sponsor: pikachu

mr governor, you have 36 hours to advocate for this amendment.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

alright so before we do anything else i want to make sure this amendment doesn't just bum around at the tail end of the constitution

amendment:

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[Prince of Salem]

Looks reasonable.

[DemPGH]

Yeah, I think we could do this for Governor, although I think with activity being an issue I would probably not support term limits for the Assembly. But for Gov., yeah, this looks good.

[Poirot]

Just trying to understand the two full terms. It means for example if someone becomes Governor in a special election, that person can still run and hold Governor's office for the duration of the two full terms of the general election. 

[pikachu]

Just trying to understand the two full terms. It means for example if someone becomes Governor in a special election, that person can still run and hold Governor's office for the duration of the two full terms of the general election. 

The thing I've been trying to figure out is how to handle specials. What I'd like to do is find a way to limit people who were appointed early in a term and won a special election (like myself) from being governor for 11 months.

[Clark Kent]

In real life, I would say that this is a good idea, but with activity being so low, I don't think limits are the best way to go now.

[pikachu]

In real life, I would say that this is a good idea, but with activity being so low, I don't think limits are the best way to go now.

Obviously I disagree. Here are my reasons:

1. It's easy for someone to get entrenched as Governor. In fact, per Wiki, no Governor has lost reelection since dissolution. Many don't even face major party opposition.

2. People want to hold office in the Northeast. Almost all of our recent Senate races have contested, our last two open-seat gubernatorial elections were highly contested, and two of our recent special Assembly elections were also contested.

3. This will give opportunities to advance for newer players. Open elections are generally more competitive than ones with incumbents (e.g. July gov special, July Senate special, February senate vs Feb and June gov).

[cinyc]

Just trying to understand the two full terms. It means for example if someone becomes Governor in a special election, that person can still run and hold Governor's office for the duration of the two full terms of the general election. 

The thing I've been trying to figure out is how to handle specials. What I'd like to do is find a way to limit people who were appointed early in a term and won a special election (like myself) from being governor for 11 months.

I think the proposed text would allow anyone who serves a partial term to be elected twice thereafter, regardless of when the partial term starts.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

tbh i don't really care whether the limit is 8 months or 11 months or whatever. if you want to introduce another amendment i'll extend debate another 36 hours though

and also is my amendment friendly?

[cinyc]

FYI - this needs to be voted on by next Thursday to get on the August ballot.

[Prince of Salem]

I think Evergreen's amendment is a good way to start.

[pikachu]

tbh i don't really care whether the limit is 8 months or 11 months or whatever. if you want to introduce another amendment i'll extend debate another 36 hours though

and also is my amendment friendly?

Yeah, friendly.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

alright, with no further amendments forthcoming, we will now hold a final vote on this amendment:

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1. It's easy for someone to get entrenched as Governor. In fact, per Wiki, no Governor has lost reelection since dissolution. Many don't even face major party opposition.

2. People want to hold office in the Northeast. Almost all of our recent Senate races have contested, our last two open-seat gubernatorial elections were highly contested, and two of our recent special Assembly elections were also contested.

3. This will give opportunities to advance for newer players. Open elections are generally more competitive than ones with incumbents (e.g. July gov special, July Senate special, February senate vs Feb and June gov).

representatives have 48 hours to vote aye, nay, or abstain.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

aye

[Prince of Salem]

Aye

And so long fellow Representatives, I'll miss you all

[Clark Kent]

This is probably going to pass anyways, so might as well vote how I feel.

Nay

[DemPGH]

Yes!

[Former Lincoln Assemblyman & Lt. Gov. RGN]

Aye

[Lincoln Republican]

FYI, I fully support term limits for the office of Northeast Governor.

We do not need a Governor for life just because a particular Governor may have the support of the largest party or largest coalition of parties in the region.

I am very pleased to see that this bill has such tremendous support in the Assembly.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

yes this passed 4-1 sorry