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« on: August 05, 2015, 06:08:19 PM »

The election is 2016. After a hugely competitive primary against Biden and Sanders, Hillary Clinton barely won the nomination in the month of May of 2016. She would go on to let speculation dangle for her running-mate as the economy started to sputter. Finally, several choices were narrowed down and cut before she released her final choice: Martin Heinrich. Heinrich shined in the first vice presidential debate, and he sometimes overshadowed Hillary Clinton at the top of the ticket.

Kasich won the nomination in 2016 of April, after chasing Bush down in New Hampshire. Kasich did well enough on Super Tuesday that he narrowed his competition down to the winner of Nevada, Marco Rubio, and Iowa winner Scott Walker. In South Carolina, Kasich ran a close second to Rubio, with Walker on his heels. Colorado went to Kasich, and from there on he did fairly well. Kasich managed to continue on into the general, and he chose Brian Sandoval as his running-mate.

Now, the choice is yours. Who do you vote for, and who do you think will win this election?


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Feel free to post maps and such here. I've noticed a fair amount of Kasich-supporters here, and I'd like to see if he made it competitive enough.

Also, Other choices:

Libertarian: Gary Johnson(L-NM)/Justin Amash(L-MI)
Green: Dennis Kuchinich(G-OH)/Jill Stein(G-MA)
Justice: Rocky Anderson(J-UT)/Thom Hartmann(J-OR)
Constitution: Robert Barr(C-GA)/Virgil Goode(C-VA)
Reform: Wayne Root(Reform-NV)/Eliot Cutler(Reform-ME)
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2015, 06:10:41 PM »

It would be extremely close, but have you seen Heinrich? That face alone should take Clinton over the finish line.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2015, 06:11:10 PM »

John Kasich is probably my second choice, and I think he could at least compete with Hillary.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2015, 06:12:04 PM »

Kasich would lose due to boredom alone.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2015, 06:13:41 PM »

Heinrich wont be picked; it is a governor appointment seat; not a special election.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2015, 06:14:47 PM »

Kasich would lose due to boredom alone.

I'm going to try to stay out of most of this, but what? John "Energy" Kasich isn't what I would call boring. Most people don't get to go to the White House by complaining to the University's President.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2015, 06:20:11 PM »

Interesting tickets - personally I think Kasich will choose someone to the right of him to shore up the conservative vote, but still a solid ticket. After barely winning the nomination, Democrats will be dismayed that Hillary didn't select a "true progressive" as her running mate. Kasich/Sandoval hammer down on their accomplishments, arguing that they can replicate the successes in their state to the entire nation. Clinton is easily overshadowed by her running mate, who, while having charisma and a pretty face, is unable to fully convince the American people that he's qualified enough to potentially become President.

The campaign stays pretty close until the final weeks, when undecided voters slowly start to break for Kasich, who is seen more favorably by moderate voters.

RCP Map on Election Day:


Final Map:

Kasich/Sandoval - 50.3% Popular Vote, 301 Electoral Votes
Clinton/Heinrich - 48.5% Popular Vote, 237 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 06:26:22 PM »

I think Kasich could win, and I'd vote for him unless he goes full neo-con, which I suspect he won't.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2015, 06:30:41 PM »



Kasich 302
Clinton 236
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2015, 06:52:36 PM »

When TNVolunteer has New Hampshire going Republican, you know you have a good candidate.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2015, 06:58:19 PM »

It would probably be a very competitive race. Here's my guess:



CO, IA, NH, and VA are all decided by less than 1%.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2015, 07:01:18 PM »

It would probably be a very competitive race. Here's my guess:



CO, IA, NH, and VA are all decided by less than 1%.

Gotta keep it a result I like. If it is that close with a Democratic incumbent, the Republican wins. Simple logic.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2015, 07:01:57 PM »
« Edited: August 05, 2015, 07:06:31 PM by xavier110 »

Stein/Kasich

Kasich wins, with 272 EV, taking nh, oh, ia, co
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2015, 07:04:19 PM »

I think this could lead to a very odd political map. Kasich would be much weaker among minorities than Bush or Rubio, and maybe even Walker. On the other hand, he would do very well with working-class whites, and would make strong inroads in places like Iowa and Pennsylvania. In the end, I think it could be the first election in a while in which Florida votes more D than Pennsylvania.

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2015, 07:06:22 PM »

I think this could lead to a very odd political map. Kasich would be much weaker among minorities than Bush or Rubio, and maybe even Walker. On the other hand, he would do very well with working-class whites, and would make strong inroads in places like Iowa and Pennsylvania. In the end, I think it could be the first election in a while in which Florida votes more D than Pennsylvania.



You must be new here. Colorado going for Hillary is borderline treason here. btwifarepublicanwinspennsylvaniatheywinvirginia
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2015, 07:09:41 PM »

I think this could lead to a very odd political map. Kasich would be much weaker among minorities than Bush or Rubio, and maybe even Walker. On the other hand, he would do very well with working-class whites, and would make strong inroads in places like Iowa and Pennsylvania. In the end, I think it could be the first election in a while in which Florida votes more D than Pennsylvania.

If Kasich wins half as many African-Americans nationwide as he did in Ohio in 2014, he still wins twelve percent of the vote there. What percentage of the African-American vote do you think Rubio or Bush would carry?
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2015, 07:11:13 PM »

I question how competitive Kasich would be in the general election. A solid number of the GOP base (muh turnout) are suspicious of him (because reasons), and it's not as if too many voters on the Democratic side would defect to a vaguely somewhat moderate Republican Governor from Ohio. Maybe he would do well with white Independents, idk.

Not saying he's a bad pick...the GOP could certainly do worse, in many ways.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2015, 07:12:40 PM »

I think this could lead to a very odd political map. Kasich would be much weaker among minorities than Bush or Rubio, and maybe even Walker. On the other hand, he would do very well with working-class whites, and would make strong inroads in places like Iowa and Pennsylvania. In the end, I think it could be the first election in a while in which Florida votes more D than Pennsylvania.



You must be new here. Colorado going for Hillary is borderline treason here. btwifarepublicanwinspennsylvaniatheywinvirginia

The lean-Dem votes around Pittsburgh and Erie are much different than those in Fairfax. The former, I think Kasich could win, the latter, no.
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2015, 07:52:46 PM »

OK... I get people reflexively giving WI to Walker match-ups... but PA? Because it trended GOP last time? Because it's next door?

FTR - even though I think Kasich is about as engaging as soapy water, to me, he's much closer, in reality, to what people think Walker is. He's a generally popular Governor, with a strong economic record behind him and won re-election strongly in a purple state.



The strongest argument for Kasich, is that he's probably one candidate that you could trust to stop Hillary trying to expand the field cutting off IN, MO etc. But I think the Democratic fire-wall would likely hold up in the end.

Again, predicting PA for the GOP in anything other than a mini-landslide is very brave.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2015, 10:33:42 PM »

It would be extremely close, but have you seen Heinrich? That face alone should take Clinton over the finish line.

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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2015, 10:48:44 PM »

It would be extremely close, but have you seen Heinrich? That face alone should take Clinton over the finish line.

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I went with Kucinich for my vote. I think that Hillary could narrowly win, but I wouldn't bet too much on that. Maybe a 55% chance of her winning.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2015, 12:51:30 AM »

I'd vote for neither and the winner would be Kasich in a super close race with record low turnout.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2016, 07:35:28 PM »

My guess:



Kasich/Rubio (or Martinez): 292 EV
Clinton/Kaine: 246 EV

Close states:

Virginia: Clinton +0.09
Nevada: Clinton +0.9
New Hampshire: Kasich +1.1
Pennsylvania: Kasich +1.9
Wisconsin: Clinton +2.0

New Hampshire?
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2016, 12:44:34 AM »



Kasich: 322
Clinton: 218

I would still vote for Johnson, but Kasich would definitely be favored. This isn't even taking into account Hillary's 'deplorables' comment, which is questionable if she would've said that with Kasich but if she did she would be done.
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2016, 12:50:36 AM »
« Edited: September 19, 2016, 01:00:06 AM by matthew27 »

As badly as Clinton is doing against a jackass like Trump. I'd guess Kasich would utterly wipe her out like Obama wiped out McCain 2008.

8 point landslide for Kaish on election day.
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