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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« on: August 07, 2015, 09:41:07 PM »

I completely agree that section 2 is kind of terrible. Law of unintended consequenses, I suppose. Maybe we could significantly re-word the secoon, perhaps making it income-based?

I also agree that section 1 has different positives to it than just that. I decided to throw it in to this bill because reducing abortions is one of the positives.

I get your point on section 3; my intention was to avoid forcing schools to do something they didn't want to. Although I guess it's all public schools, so making it mandatory wouldn't hurt too much.

Anyway, I think this bill is needed because it's something we should be doing. Whether the bill as it orgininally is goes through or not--it won't--it starts the conversation on how to find multipartisan ways to reduce abortions, which is a good thing.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 10:06:52 PM »

Would you like me to write an amended version?

Sure, I'm interested in seeing what your take on this is.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2015, 09:45:55 AM »

I support the gist of this bill.....I sponsored some thing in the Senate one time called the Pregnant Women Support Act- or some thing along those lines,which had a similar goal, to help women who choose to go thru with a pregnancy

Sounds great! I'll look for that and try and incorporate stuff into an amended version of this.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2015, 07:39:51 AM »

Um, is anybody going to open the vote on this?

I was actually waiting for Dar's amendment, although since he left I've sort of put it on the back-burner.

Does anyone have any suggestions to improve the bill? As Dar explained, it's highly flawed, so in it's current state it should be voted against. I suppose I'll make an amended version myself (I'm assuming Governor's can do that...) at some point soon, then we can discuss that.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2015, 02:27:19 AM »

Now that we have a legislature to vote on this, I can put together an amended version. I'll have that within a day or so. Does anyone have any suggestions/thoughts? It's obviously flawed, as Dar pointed out, but there are different ways to fix it, and I'd like to see what Pingvin, Haslam, and Steelers have to think.
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Leinad
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,049
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.03, S: -7.91

« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2015, 05:19:20 PM »

Why are you nibbling around the edges?

There is a pro-life majority here. Just get the job done. Legally, there is no doubt you can just a 22 week ban, I can reasonably say you could get away with a 20 back on the basis of fetal pain.

Even if you don't want to take the route of banning abortions, then at least equalize the treatment of abortion under our medical health standards. Pass legislation which mandates emergency room admittance privileges for abortion providers. Pass legislation requiring abortion providers to abide by surgical health standards.

Stop being afraid to take on the big fights.

You know what? You're right, my bill was originally made more moderate than it needed to be, although looking at the legislature I think I can go further.
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