How would you "solve"/"end" the Abortion issue?

[TJ in Oregon]

It will never be solved and it will never end. One side or the other may capture the center of population's views, but there will always be some waiting in the shadows who disagree.

Policy-wise, I'm in the banning camp.

[YaBoyNY]

Remove the political rights from the anti-choice crowd.

It might be the coming election season, but you've truly become a lot more blindly partisan and radical since joining.  Based on your signature, it seems your comically inflated view of your ideology will only continue this trend, LOL.

It's less that I've become blindly partisan and more that I realize that some people hold views that aren't worth respecting or considering, i.e. anti-choicers.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Remove the political rights from the anti-choice crowd.

It might be the coming election season, but you've truly become a lot more blindly partisan and radical since joining.  Based on your signature, it seems your comically inflated view of your ideology will only continue this trend, LOL.

It's less that I've become blindly partisan and more that I realize that some people hold views that aren't worth respecting or considering, i.e. anti-choicers.

That's pathetic.  Have your opinion, fine; defend it, sure.  But if you can't even respect how someone can be pro-life and view that view as protecting a defenseless unborn child, then you're untraceable.

And that's coming from someone who's unapologetically pro-choice.

[Famous Mortimer]

Do Democrats here really favor legalized abortion at 8 months?

[DC Al Fine]

Remove the political rights from the anti-choice crowd.

It might be the coming election season, but you've truly become a lot more blindly partisan and radical since joining.  Based on your signature, it seems your comically inflated view of your ideology will only continue this trend, LOL.

It's less that I've become blindly partisan and more that I realize that some people hold views that aren't worth respecting or considering, i.e. anti-choicers.

Tedious hack is tedious

[DC Al Fine]

Do Democrats here really favor legalized abortion at 8 months?

Not all (or even most?), but there's a decent sized contingent that favours abortion so long as the baby's toe is still in the mother.

[PJ]

Remove the political rights from the anti-choice crowd.

It might be the coming election season, but you've truly become a lot more blindly partisan

Pot, meet kettle.

[TransfemmeGoreVidal]

I'm decidedly pro-choice but I think that Democrats have gone overboard in making it a centerpiece of there campaign. It probably caused Udall to shed some Catholic votes that might have otherwise gone his way in the last election. I think that Clinton's "safe, legal and rare"" rhetoric was the best framework. I guess I'd solve it through benign neglect and just personally voting and/or protesting to keep abortion legal whenever it came up for debate.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Remove the political rights from the anti-choice crowd.

It might be the coming election season, but you've truly become a lot more blindly partisan

Pot, meet kettle.

Oh, give me a break.

[Mercenary]

It will never be solved as no matter what is done, no matter how effective a policy may be there will always be those who have the opposite position. I think as technology advances it'll become possible for the unborn child to be viable sooner. There will therefore be less and less of a reason for anyone to support abortions, but there will still be those who do.

Anyway...

I would like to see abortion banned except for the life of the mother.
To help with this I'd like adoption to be made easier for all parties.
I think support for pregnant women should be increased as should support for poor families with children. Also safe sex education should be taught across the nation.
I think there should be a better system in place for unwanted children as well as orphans in general. The foster system needs to be significantly improved.

[TNF]

Do Democrats here really favor legalized abortion at 8 months?

I'm not a Democrat, but yes, I do trust women enough that I think they have the capacity to make that kind of decision, no matter what stage of her pregnancy she is currently in. Is a fetus arguably alive at that point? Sure. Does that change my position? No.

[SWE]

The easiest way to end the debate that I can think of would be to enact my position into law and then kill off all who object.

[TNF]

The easiest way to end the debate that I can think of would be to enact my position into law and then kill off all who object.

Or marginalize them to the point the point that they're regarded as a strange curiosity. Like American monarchists, for instance.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

The easiest way to end the debate that I can think of would be to enact my position into law and then kill off all who object.

Or marginalize them to the point the point that they're regarded as a strange curiosity. Like American monarchists, for instance.

Or Trotskyites for that matter

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

The secularization of American society should be sufficient. The vast majority of anti-choicers are rooted in religion. 

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

It will never be solved and it will never end. One side or the other may capture the center of population's views, but there will always be some waiting in the shadows who disagree.

Policy-wise, I'm in the banning camp.

[Figueira]

I'm concerned by all these people who think that banning abortion would end the issue entirely.

Aren't Conservatives delightfully stupid?

I am aware that, in the current political and cultural environment, banning abortion would not make it cease to be a political issue.

I would like to have abortion banned and have our culture change to become more socially conservative and, thus, more pro-life. These might be tough goals to accomplish, but I think they are goals worth pursuing regardless.

...You don't get it, do you?

[SNJ1985]

I'm concerned by all these people who think that banning abortion would end the issue entirely.

Aren't Conservatives delightfully stupid?

I am aware that, in the current political and cultural environment, banning abortion would not make it cease to be a political issue.

I would like to have abortion banned and have our culture change to become more socially conservative and, thus, more pro-life. These might be tough goals to accomplish, but I think they are goals worth pursuing regardless.

...You don't get it, do you?

Is your objection to my proposal based on the belief that banning abortion would inevitably result in an explosion of illegal abortions? If so, that's just a myth. Poland banned abortion in most circumstances in the 1990s after it having been legal on request in the country prior to that. While illegal abortions do occur in the country, they are not nearly as numerous as legal abortions were prior to the enactment of the ban.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/polandlaw.html

Besides, we shouldn't make an evil act legal just because people still do it despite it being illegal. We shouldn't legalize rape, theft, and murder (of born people) just because people still commit such acts despite them being against the law.

[Figueira]

I'm concerned by all these people who think that banning abortion would end the issue entirely.

Aren't Conservatives delightfully stupid?

I am aware that, in the current political and cultural environment, banning abortion would not make it cease to be a political issue.

I would like to have abortion banned and have our culture change to become more socially conservative and, thus, more pro-life. These might be tough goals to accomplish, but I think they are goals worth pursuing regardless.

...You don't get it, do you?

Is your objection to my proposal based on the belief that banning abortion would inevitably result in an explosion of illegal abortions? If so, that's just a myth. Poland banned abortion in most circumstances in the 1990s after it having been legal on request in the country prior to that. While illegal abortions do occur in the country, they are not nearly as numerous as legal abortions were prior to the enactment of the ban.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/polandlaw.html

Besides, we shouldn't make an evil act legal just because people still do it despite it being illegal. We shouldn't legalize rape, theft, and murder (of born people) just because people still commit such acts despite them being against the law.

All I was saying is that banning abortion won't actually stop abortions from happening, which is what you and others implied.

[TNF]

The easiest way to end the debate that I can think of would be to enact my position into law and then kill off all who object.

Or marginalize them to the point the point that they're regarded as a strange curiosity. Like American monarchists, for instance.

Or Trotskyites for that matter

Fair enough.

[Rockefeller GOP]

I'm concerned by all these people who think that banning abortion would end the issue entirely.

Aren't Conservatives delightfully stupid?

I am aware that, in the current political and cultural environment, banning abortion would not make it cease to be a political issue.

I would like to have abortion banned and have our culture change to become more socially conservative and, thus, more pro-life. These might be tough goals to accomplish, but I think they are goals worth pursuing regardless.

...You don't get it, do you?

Is your objection to my proposal based on the belief that banning abortion would inevitably result in an explosion of illegal abortions? If so, that's just a myth. Poland banned abortion in most circumstances in the 1990s after it having been legal on request in the country prior to that. While illegal abortions do occur in the country, they are not nearly as numerous as legal abortions were prior to the enactment of the ban.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/polandlaw.html

Besides, we shouldn't make an evil act legal just because people still do it despite it being illegal. We shouldn't legalize rape, theft, and murder (of born people) just because people still commit such acts despite them being against the law.

All I was saying is that banning abortion won't actually stop abortions from happening, which is what you and others implied.

Isn't this the exact same argument liberals scoff at when it comes to gun control?

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

@rocky, it's all about being utilitarian. Banning abortion would decrease the total amount of abortions: just like banning prostitution, gambling, assault weapons and the use of recreational drugs would decrease people taking part of those activities.

One must measure up the positive attributes of sanctioning [behaviour that society deems "bad"], with any negative consequences likely to occur. If the net effect to society of keeping a negative behaviour unsanctioned is positive (like I believe in the case of abortion and recreational drug use) then it is best to leave the behaviour legalised (but suitably regulated) as a legitimate activity. It the net effect is negative (like (IMO) unrestricted gun ownership or legalised brothels) then the state has an interest in clamping down on the behaviour, even if they cannot clamp down on it fully.

[VPH]

Simple: ban sex.

[TNF]

I'm concerned by all these people who think that banning abortion would end the issue entirely.

Aren't Conservatives delightfully stupid?

I am aware that, in the current political and cultural environment, banning abortion would not make it cease to be a political issue.

I would like to have abortion banned and have our culture change to become more socially conservative and, thus, more pro-life. These might be tough goals to accomplish, but I think they are goals worth pursuing regardless.

...You don't get it, do you?

Is your objection to my proposal based on the belief that banning abortion would inevitably result in an explosion of illegal abortions? If so, that's just a myth. Poland banned abortion in most circumstances in the 1990s after it having been legal on request in the country prior to that. While illegal abortions do occur in the country, they are not nearly as numerous as legal abortions were prior to the enactment of the ban.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/polandlaw.html

Besides, we shouldn't make an evil act legal just because people still do it despite it being illegal. We shouldn't legalize rape, theft, and murder (of born people) just because people still commit such acts despite them being against the law.

All I was saying is that banning abortion won't actually stop abortions from happening, which is what you and others implied.

Isn't this the exact same argument liberals scoff at when it comes to gun control?

Yes, which is why liberals cannot be taken seriously

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Pass a constitutional amendment allowing Congress to regulate abortion, then ban abortion at all stages except to save the mother's life.  Increase federal funding for adoption services and contraception.