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« on: August 09, 2015, 12:39:16 PM »
« edited: August 09, 2015, 12:40:55 PM by The Year Summer Ended In July »



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The extreme hypocrisy and flip on the standard SJW stance here is just galling. Wow.

Of course this does serve as a good point to make to the people who've argued about how it shouldn't count as rape if the girl changes her mind or how she can't after a certain point, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2015, 12:48:03 PM »

Everybody has the right to refuse sex for any reason.

That said it is probably transphobic to refuse sex with a post-up transgender person IMO.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2015, 01:07:55 PM »

Absolutely, utterly, unambiguously disgusting and despicable. I hope that's something we can all agree about.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2015, 02:58:54 PM »


Of course this does serve as a good point to make to the people who've argued about how it shouldn't count as rape if the girl changes her mind or how she can't after a certain point, etc.

Who makes these arguments? No one I've ever heard. They are straw men.

Also, I imagine the image is a joke. As it should be. No one is entitled to sex with anyone. You always have the right to change your mind.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2015, 04:04:16 PM »

The normal Tumblr nonsense. Nothing to see here.
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2015, 08:00:12 PM »

Who actually uses the word "cis"?
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2015, 08:02:23 PM »


I've only ever seen it on the internet, and I don't even know how to pronounce it.  Like 'sis' or 'kis'?  I suppose I should learn since apparently I am cisgender?
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2015, 01:20:06 AM »


I've only ever seen it on the internet, and I don't even know how to pronounce it.  Like 'sis' or 'kis'?  I suppose I should learn since apparently I am cisgender?

Sis. It's from chemistry; it means on the same side.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2015, 03:28:21 AM »


I've only ever seen it on the internet, and I don't even know how to pronounce it.  Like 'sis' or 'kis'?  I suppose I should learn since apparently I am cisgender?

Sis. It's from chemistry; it means on the same side.

The West Bank used to be called Cisjordan (by the side of the river), while Jordan was called Transjordan (across the river). Of course, they dropped the "Trans" after they took over the West Bank and never added it back even after they lost it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2015, 03:44:20 AM »
« Edited: August 10, 2015, 03:47:34 AM by politicus »


I've only ever seen it on the internet, and I don't even know how to pronounce it.  Like 'sis' or 'kis'?  I suppose I should learn since apparently I am cisgender?

Sis. It's from chemistry; it means on the same side.

Nah, it predates modern chemistry. The Romans used Gallia Cisalpina to distinguish the Gauls in northern Italy from those in Gaul proper (modern France).
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2015, 03:49:22 AM »

Cis and trans are Latin propositions meaning "within" and "beyond" respectively.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2015, 05:44:31 AM »

Obviously the Romans were worthless SJW's though. Evidence: did Cicero ever once discuss the crucial societal issue of ethics in video game journalism? SJW confirmed!
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2015, 06:16:12 AM »

Horrible, horrible, horrible image. Everybody always has the right to refuse anybody sex for any or no reason (not a terrible).
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 06:33:56 AM »


I've only ever seen it on the internet, and I don't even know how to pronounce it.  Like 'sis' or 'kis'?  I suppose I should learn since apparently I am cisgender?

Sis. It's from chemistry; it means on the same side.

Nah, it predates modern chemistry. The Romans used Gallia Cisalpina to distinguish the Gauls in northern Italy from those in Gaul proper (modern France).

... and Napoleon created the Reppublica Cisalpina. Why the prefix "cis" upsets you? It's cool!

That said, the image is terrible. It looks like some people confuses one thing with another. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 07:07:33 AM »

Horrible Image. It makes me even more critical of internet actvists.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 07:22:50 AM »

Horrible, horrible image.

Horrible Image. It makes me even more critical of internet actvists.

The idea that this image is even remotely characteristic of 'internet activism' as a whole is pretty laughable.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 07:28:04 AM »

Horrible, horrible image.

Horrible Image. It makes me even more critical of internet actvists.

The idea that this image is even remotely characteristic of 'internet activism' as a whole is pretty laughable.
It is characteristic of Tumblr activism though Tongue

That said it is probably transphobic to refuse sex with a post-up transgender person IMO.
Are you serious?
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2015, 07:43:44 AM »

Well, it is an odd reaction. For exampl, I am not attracted to fat people at all; but I wouldn't turn down sex because a skinny person used to be a fat person. That would of course be bonkers; and there is very little difference between that scenario and a woman who used to be a man (or vice versa).
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2015, 08:50:34 AM »

To be honest though I think this highlights a good example of how this type of extreme political correctness can easily contradict itself when taken so far. For example it reminds me of when Antonio was flipping out over that a woman could request that a sperm donor be of the same race as she is and was amazed that was even legal....and then got mocked for it by some people making the very valid point that he was basically arguing she shouldn't have a choice about whose sperm goes into her body.

So it shows that simple common sense should simply be used as the standard.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2015, 09:09:12 AM »

To be honest though I think this highlights a good example of how this type of extreme political correctness can easily contradict itself when taken so far. For example it reminds me of when Antonio was flipping out over that a woman could request that a sperm donor be of the same race as she is and was amazed that was even legal....and then got mocked for it by some people making the very valid point that he was basically arguing she shouldn't have a choice about whose sperm goes into her body.

I don't remember the specifics of this discussion, nor do I particularly wish to resume it, but this comparison is ridiculous.
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2015, 01:49:20 AM »

How can these kind of people say this and at the same time support such things as affirmative consent laws? Such inconsistency makes me even more ashamed to have a tumblr account than I already am.
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2015, 05:50:52 AM »

Horrible image is horrible.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2015, 07:58:45 AM »

To be honest though I think this highlights a good example of how this type of extreme political correctness can easily contradict itself when taken so far. For example it reminds me of when Antonio was flipping out over that a woman could request that a sperm donor be of the same race as she is and was amazed that was even legal....and then got mocked for it by some people making the very valid point that he was basically arguing she shouldn't have a choice about whose sperm goes into her body.

I don't remember the specifics of this discussion, nor do I particularly wish to resume it, but this comparison is ridiculous.

How is it even legal to ask for sperm from a particular racial group? That's clearly discrimination.
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2015, 08:24:24 AM »

How can these kind of people say this and at the same time support such things as affirmative consent laws? Such inconsistency makes me even more ashamed to have a tumblr account than I already am.

People have Tumblr accounts for other reasons than watching porn and kittens?!
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2015, 08:40:40 AM »

Well, it is an odd reaction. For exampl, I am not attracted to fat people at all; but I wouldn't turn down sex because a skinny person used to be a fat person. That would of course be bonkers; and there is very little difference between that scenario and a woman who used to be a man (or vice versa).
I disagree. Trans people still have the same chromosomes as "assigned" by birth. By contrast, people who used to be fat weren't "assigned" that way (even though they might have a predisposition to obesity).

There are probably people who would even consider this comment "transphobic", but I think people who don't want to neglect this biological reality when seeking a partner aren't necessarily "transphobic".
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