Why does Bernie Sanders do horribly with African American voters?

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Why hasn't Sanders been able to appeal to African American or other minority voters?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Because they always support the establishment candidate, with 2008 being the only exception for obvious reasons.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Because they always support the establishment candidate, with 2008 being the only exception for obvious reasons.

Ahem

[Famous Mortimer]

It's not that he does bad with them. It's that Clinton does well. Although after months and months of the media asking this same question "Why does Bernie Sanders do horribly with African Americans?" no doubt some people, including African Americans, start to assume it must be true and it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Because they always support the establishment candidate, with 2008 being the only exception for obvious reasons.

Ahem

Nah, if Jackson got 90% of the AA vote like Obama did then he would have swept the south alike.
Also I remember reading how black support was crucial for Mondale for his wins in the Georgia and Alabama primaries which allowed him to rebound from his New Hampshire loss to Hart.

[bedstuy]

Sanders does well with people on the ideological left.  Those people are disproportionately white.  Among ideologically left-wing blacks, I'm sure Sanders is leading.  It's just that there are fewer of those people.

Another way to look at it, educated Democrats vote for the more left-wing candidate.  White people have a higher educational attainment than black people.  So, that's how it shakes out. 

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Because they always support the establishment candidate, with 2008 being the only exception for obvious reasons.

Unfortunately true

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

Two possible reasons (although I have no idea if they're correct)

1. He's unknown among African American voters.

2. Vermont is roughly 95% white, therefore Sanders has never had to pander to AA voters in order to win election there. He doesn't have a very strong grasp on how to connect with them.

[xavier110]

Because they always support the establishment candidate, with 2008 being the only exception for obvious reasons.

yep and even for most of the '08 race, Clinton led Obama by huge margins with black voters… hence their being blindsided by the massive shifts

[tpfkaw]

1. Much higher name rec.
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2. They don't care about his pet issues.
3. He's Jewish.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

1. Much higher name rec.
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2. They don't care about his pet issues.
3. He's Jewish.

Why would him being Jewish be an issue?

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

1. Much higher name rec.
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2. They don't care about his pet issues.
3. He's Jewish.

Why would him being Jewish be an issue?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/02/19/entrenched-anti-semitic-views-very-rare-among-whites-and-asian-americans-common-among-blacks-and-latinos/

[Famous Mortimer]

I'm a Sanders hack but the accusations of anti-Semitism are stupid and make us look bad. I also think they are untrue, just to be clear.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Because he's a 70something year old Jewish socialist from Vermont whose never had to interact with black voters in his entire career in elected office.

[Abraham Reagan]

Because he hasn't yet bowed down to BLM.

[Mister Mets]

Why hasn't Sanders been able to appeal to African American or other minority voters?

I think part of it is that they're not familiar with him, and another part of it is that they like someone else.

Sanders is an old white guy known for being Senator in a very white state.

Hillary Clinton is the intelligent wife of a President beloved by the African-American community who served in the administration of the first African-American President.

Sanders has to make inroads in the community. That said, with his current polling, if he can get his numbers among African Americans higher, he might be a powerhouse.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

I don't think it's so much disdain for Bernie (let alone anti-semitism) as it is love for Hillary, at least for 2016.

The Clintons are held in high repute amongst the black community (AFAIK); black incomes and household wealth soared as poverty plunged during the late-1990s, so why go against someone who you know and trust to do what's right for you?

True, Bernie also has been an advocate for the black community in terms of civil rights and economics for decades, but he's never built up the reputation and recognition that Hillary has. They don't know him and they don't trust him. Most black voters probably made up their mind about who to support years ago, and don't really care for any new challengers. She just towers over him in this regard.

EDIT - Mister Mets beat me to it while I left in the middle of typing

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Can I get an amen for this rather clairvoyant yet always applicable post I made on AAD a month ago? At the time, it was in reference to Libertas saying "Bernie can win a majority of black voters!" but covers the topic of Deep South Democratic primary flubs and why they happen. I know it's long but it's detailed and explains to anyone who's interested in this MS debacle (or the 2014 TN Dem Gov race, the 2012 TN Dem Senate race, and so on) why this keeps happening with increasing frequency.

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[Famous Mortimer]

Because he's a 70something year old Jewish socialist from Vermont whose never had to interact with black voters in his entire career in elected office.

I actually think this Clinton campaign meme is kind of racist. Talking to Black voters is no different from talking to White voters. Even if that wasn't the case, can you give me a concrete example of how Hillary is "better at talking to African Americans" than Sanders? Is it because she goes to Black churches and speaks in an affected African American accent? Is that what makes her so liked among the Black community? As opposed to just name recognition?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why hasn't Sanders been able to appeal to African American or other minority voters?

If Obama didnt get the funding he did in 08 and wasnt such a good speaker Hillary probably would have won the black vote vs him and easily won the nomination. Bernie isnt Obama he Dennis Kucinich

[hopper]

Why hasn't Sanders been able to appeal to African American or other minority voters?

If Obama didnt get the funding he did in 08 and wasnt such a good speaker Hillary probably would have won the black vote vs him and easily won the nomination. Bernie isnt Obama he Dennis Kucinich

True on the speaker thing. Obama was Reagan-esque  in 2008 and is a very good debater(just ask Mitt Romney.)

[hopper]

Because they always support the establishment candidate, with 2008 being the only exception for obvious reasons.

Ahem

Jessie was never the Dem Nominee for the President. He did finish 2nd to Dukakis in 1988 in the Dem Presidential Primary though.

[The Last Northerner]

Related -

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-event-shut-down-black-lives-matter-activists

[hopper]

Two possible reasons (although I have no idea if they're correct)

1. He's unknown among African American voters.

2. Vermont is roughly 95% white, therefore Sanders has never had to pander to AA voters in order to win election there. He doesn't have a very strong grasp on how to connect with them.

True.

[Likely Voter]

Because they always support the establishment candidate, with 2008 being the only exception for obvious reasons.

That is true and I'm not sure that Obama was the exception. Obama didn't start ticking up with African American's until after he won IA, proving that he could win (but he also had picked up key endorsements inside IA). By that time Obama was at least in parity with Clinton with fundraising (if not past her). Obama also picked up many more endorsements during the primary, starting with Oprah but also Edward Kennedy and many others including rivals after they dropped out (Richardson, Dodd, and Edwards). 

So while Obama was never as much of the establishment candidate as Clinton, he was never the true outsider ala Bernie. I think all of this added up to enough establishemnt support for African Americans to think he could actually win it and switch from Clinton to Obama. Even if Bernie wins IA and/or NH, I am not sure that Bernie will follow the same pattern, and so I think this time that AAs will stick with Hillary, and that means she will still win.