Apparently "Mock Parliment" is trying to put the final nail in the coffin?

[windjammer]

Not surprising to be honest when you see who are advocating for it (talleyrand, TNF,...)

[windjammer]

Lol, I wonder if the mock parliament will last longer than 6 months this time?

To be honest,
I tend to believe it will last longer. I mean, I understand why it can be considered as attractive. Every new game is.

[windjammer]

Going to pop in here for a bit-

I strongly reject the idea that this is some sort of scheme or motion to kill of Atlasia out of spite or whatever. Griffin and Windjammer should know better than to spout out meaningless accusations than that.

The idea behind the clause was to create a situation where you could see meaningful foreign policy between the two simulations without an unrealistic conflict of interest (I made this case on a post in the mock parliament board). The idea of two co-existing states actually originally came from some very pro-Atlasia individuals who haven't joined the South America simulation, including North Carolina.

My hope was that you'd end up with two smaller, but more stable and functioning games side by side. Keep in mind no one has proposed citizenship being limited to just one country, but just office holding, so someone could easily alternate offices in each game if they wished.

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This hypocrisy is so consterning.

[windjammer]

One thing is to wish for two nations, another one is to force people to choose between one of two games by using that sort of policy (because really, just voting and not being able to run for office defeats the purpose of these games in many ways).

Cynical and disappointed as I am on Atlasia I still believe it's not proper to force people into choosing a game in which they will be able to participate on its full gameplay, because to me that amounts to a lack of respect for the players and the games rather than an attempt at "realism".

Personally, I'd have no interest in joining the Mock Parliament if it's going to engage in that (not that anyone cares, of course).

That's a reasonable point of view and some which a fair portion of people in the game seem to be taking, but the idea is to enhance and excite game play by creating a fundamental connection between the two games. I don't think this is anyone's biggest issue by far in the game, and it seems almost certain there will be a serious debate on it with both sides represented.

Anyway, what Truman pointed out earlier is that this clause was actually defeated by the provisional parliament because people believed it would be better for the elected parliament to vote on it. It currently isn't anywhere near effect.

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This hypocrisy is so consterning.

Do you actually have anything of substance to say or do you just want to continue with snippy, incoherent one-liners?

FWIW I think the most likely scenario is a compromise wherein the positions of Prime Minister/Foreign Minsiter/Ambassador are off limits to foreign officeholders.

Yeah, this too.

You wanted to abolish this game before you deregistered. There is nothing of substance to say because this is so obvious you plan to continue to sink (even more) this game. So assume what you're trying to do.

[windjammer]

My idea at the time was to end the game and then revitalize it with something else. Now that we have a mock parliament game which seems to be moderately succesful and would actually energize Atlasia too, I think that it's possible for this game survive too. Believe it or not, people's views change and adapt with different circumstances and different times.

Yes I believe that views can change, but I find that difficult in your case considering you basically want to force people to play one game and not the other, difficult to see how you want to "energize" atlasia with that.

[windjammer]

I clearly can't help myself posting in this thread, but let's cut the conspiratorial thinking out for a bit. Talley was the person who lobbied for the amendment, Leinad had a strong stand against it. In the end the restriction was removed by a margin of two.

Look, I don't harbor any ill will towards Atlasia. I wasn't the nicest person when I tried to play the game, but that's just a symptom of me coming to terms that the game is not right for me. In its current, hollowed-out state, Atlasia is not right for many people. And I think the people throwing snark at Mock Parliament's players should think about why the people they recruited into Atlasia ended up so disillusioned by it.

The reality increasingly seems to be that many players have tried to like Atlasia when they were completely fed up with it. Hopefully Mock Parliament can help us reach the golden mean somewhere.

Well that's fine and I wish you good luck with your new game that I hope will be successful,
But keep in mind something:
We have never tried to undermine your game and we expect the same in return.