Election Coverage

[Murica!]

This sign in thread:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=217211.0

[afleitch]

This sign in thread:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=217211.0

So signing up to play the game in the first few days doesn't qualify me as a 'citizen' for the purpose of being able to actually play the game?

[Barnes]

For what it's worth, I will be challenging this decision to disenfranchise me in the court we don't have yet, under the laws we haven't written on the basis of the rights we haven't yet established

Excellent! See, I told you guys that this would be exciting!

[Хahar 🤔]

I agree that I think it's unreasonable to force people to sign up again after they already joined, and it's not clear to me that there's any statutory basis for this.

[Foucaulf]

Something that might become an issue - does the phrase "No citizens who register after the commencement of the election may be eligible to vote in it" refer to the scheduled or actual commencement of the election? There's a number of voters who registered after the legal scheduled commencement (midnight last night) but before the election itself commenced (the voting booth was opened).

Regardless, afleitch never registered in the sign-in thread, so there should only be one vote for the Free Alliance.

It says in the voting thread that

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The RG has chosen the more restrictive definition, so that definition stays.

There is no statutory basis for this, but this is what happens when the law defines necessary, but not sufficient, conditions. Take it up with Turk if you're still angry.

[afleitch]

I agree that I think it's unreasonable to force people to sign up again after they already joined, and it's not clear to me that there's any statutory basis for this.

I didn't sign it because I assumed it was for those who were now joining, given that the original sign up thread had moved down page.

[Oakvale]

In retrospect perhaps the RG or GM should have PMd unregistered likely voters - I know the Conservatives did, and I'm sure other parties did the same, but that leaves out those  without parties and who didn't see both the Sign-In and Turk's warning thread.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Results for Parliament (Last Voter: Higgs)
CONSERVATIVE: 10
SOCIAL LIBERALS: 7
SOCIALIST: 5
PIONEERS: 3
WORKERS': 3
FREE ALLIANCE: 2
WHIG: 1

Seat Projections (Calculator)
CONSERVATIVE: 8
SOCIAL LIBERALS: 5
SOCIALIST: 3
PIONEERS: 2
WORKERS': 2
FREE ALLIANCE: 1
WHIG: 0

*NOTE: The elimination of Afleitch's vote results in a gain of one seat by the Socialists and the loss of one seat by the FA.

[afleitch]

In retrospect perhaps the RG or GM should have PMd unregistered likely voters - I know the Conservatives did, and I'm sure other parties did the same, but that leaves out those  without parties and who didn't see both the Sign-In and Turk's warning thread.

Again, aren't those who signed up to play this likely voters? If we're going to take this game seriously, then from the onset, given that the provisional parliament didn't establish a judiciary, a constitution or a bill of rights whatever assembly is elected in this election is still a provisional parliament only subject to itself and whatever it votes on, leaving citizens exposed because they only have rights conferred upon them (and snatched away) rather than have them inherently.

Therefore, the possible next course of action is civil unrest to ensure that there is a valid structure of rights and limitations, because that's exactly what I would be doing if this was actually happening

[Türkisblau]

I'm away from my computer atm but I thought I made it as clear as possible that you had to officially register. I'll change some words around to clear it up seeing as you're a party leader and all that, and I've been notified that those who registered up until when the election started are eligible to vote as well.

There was never any clear "register" method beforehand so I thought I was streamlining everything and making it easier for all involved but I was obviously mistaken.

[Türkisblau]

In retrospect perhaps the RG or GM should have PMd unregistered likely voters - I know the Conservatives did, and I'm sure other parties did the same, but that leaves out those  without parties and who didn't see both the Sign-In and Turk's warning thread.

After conferring with Foucaulf and others, I posted  my warning thread and tried to make it clear that it was the party leader's responsibility to get their people registered, but I discounted the unaffiliated factor.

Again: this is all arbitrary so I can abuse my power to try to please as many people as possible!

[Oakvale]

I'm away from my computer atm but I thought I made it as clear as possible that you had to officially register. I'll change some words around to clear it up seeing as you're a party leader and all that, and I've been notified that those who registered up until when the election started are eligible to vote as well.

There was never any clear "register" method beforehand so I thought I was streamlining everything and making it easier for all involved but I was obviously mistaken.

I actually don't have a problem with disallowing those who didn't formally register tbh. There was a prominent warning thread posted.

[afleitch]

I'm away from my computer atm but I thought I made it as clear as possible that you had to officially register. I'll change some words around to clear it up seeing as you're a party leader and all that, and I've been notified that those who registered up until when the election started are eligible to vote as well.

There was never any clear "register" method beforehand so I thought I was streamlining everything and making it easier for all involved but I was obviously mistaken.

I actually don't have a problem with disallowing those who didn't formally register tbh. There was a prominent warning thread posted.

I don't mind being disallowed either. If this game is 'parliament-citizenry', with no structures outside of parliament, not even a court system to lubricate (I hate that word...) relationships between them both, then I sort of look forward to challenging the legitimacy of any decision because without those structures...nothing is technically legitimate. Which might in itself be fun.

[Lincoln Republican]

So if the Whigs get 2 votes, we get 1 seat.

Come on people, give us one more vote so that we can have 1 seat in Parliament. 

Better yet, give us 2 more votes so that we can have 2 seats in Parliament.

Clarence and I are here to serve, not sit in the gallery.

People, come on!

I implore you.

[Classic Conservative]

I have a question how many votes do you need to get a seat in parliament for the party??

[Donerail]

Results for Parliament (Last Voter: Clarence)
CONSERVATIVE: 19
SOCIAL LIBERALS: 13
SOCIALIST: 13
WORKERS': 5
PIONEERS: 4
FREE ALLIANCE: 2
WHIG: 2

Seat Projections (Calculator)
CONSERVATIVE: 8
SOCIAL LIBERALS: 5
SOCIALIST: 5
WORKERS': 2
PIONEERS: 1
FREE ALLIANCE: 0
WHIG: 0

Counting all voters.

Turnout Among Registered Voters: 98%

I have a question how many votes do you need to get a seat in parliament for the party??

At least three right now, but that depends on turnout.

[Hifly]

So for clarification: are the votes of those who didn't sign in before 12am on the official thread barred from voting and those candidates that did not sign up barred from taking their seats?

[Donerail]

The following individuals made some kind of post in the Mock Parliment sub-board during the year 2015, but have not registered in the sign-up thread: Afleitch, NYMillennial, Retromike, Bacon King, Lumine, Jerryarkansas, Morgieb, Jack Enderman, Kalwejt, and Politicus.

While some of these people have switched full-time to AAD since then, some may still vote in this election. I would suggest simply grandfathering all of these individuals into the voter rolls, and requiring all future voters (after the conclusion of this election) to register in the sign-up thread.

[Lumine]

The following individuals made some kind of post in the Mock Parliment sub-board during the year 2015, but have not registered in the sign-up thread: Afleitch, NYMillennial, Retromike, Bacon King, Lumine, Jerryarkansas, Morgieb, Jack Enderman, Kalwejt, and Politicus.

While some of these people have switched full-time to AAD since then, some may still vote in this election. I would suggest simply grandfathering all of these individuals into the voter rolls, and requiring all future voters (after the conclusion of this election) to register in the sign-up thread.

For what is worth, despite initially posting I don't consider myself a part of the Mock Parliament nor do I have plans to participate in the near future. While my case may be very particular, I personally think taking all those early posts for granted as full voters is not necessarily a good idea if people took the trouble to open another thread for formal sign-up (and I believe that was made clear enough).

[Donerail]

The following individuals made some kind of post in the Mock Parliment sub-board during the year 2015, but have not registered in the sign-up thread: Afleitch, NYMillennial, Retromike, Bacon King, Lumine, Jerryarkansas, Morgieb, Jack Enderman, Kalwejt, and Politicus.

While some of these people have switched full-time to AAD since then, some may still vote in this election. I would suggest simply grandfathering all of these individuals into the voter rolls, and requiring all future voters (after the conclusion of this election) to register in the sign-up thread.

For what is worth, despite initially posting I don't consider myself a part of the Mock Parliament nor do I have plans to participate in the near future. While my case may be very particular, I personally think taking all those early posts for granted as full voters is not necessarily a good idea if people took the trouble to open another thread for formal sign-up (and I believe that was made clear enough).

Indeed, but it's difficult to come up with a non-subjective standard that would include people like afleitch (who didn't post in the formal sign-up thread but who was very involved in the original process). Ideally, most of those people won't vote, so it won't be much of an issue.

[Foucaulf]

Some more #Analysis as the final night of voting begins.

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[bore]

I almost certainly will never vote tory again ( because I am, after all, scottish) but I think this first election is about creating a game that works not so much the policy, and I think the Conservatives (combined with whoever would be a coalition party) would have the best leadership team to make this thing work.

Leading on from that it's probably a mistake to assume that voting patterns are set in stone from this election, which hopefully means the next election will be just as if not more interesting.

[Foucaulf]

BREAKING NEWS

GLOBO TV IN RIO DE JANEIRO PROJECTS A CONSERVATIVE MINORITY GOVT... 8 CON, 5 LIB, 5 SOC, 2 WRK, 1 PIO...

UNRESOLVED VOTER ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONS MAY GIVE CON A SEAT AT SOC EXPENSE...

[CLARENCE 2015!]

So if the Whigs get 2 votes, we get 1 seat.

Come on people, give us one more vote so that we can have 1 seat in Parliament. 

Better yet, give us 2 more votes so that we can have 2 seats in Parliament.

Clarence and I are here to serve, not sit in the gallery.

People, come on!

I implore you.

Preach it,brother!!!

[rpryor03]

The current projections. CON: 8, SOL: 5, SOC: 5, WOR: 2, PIO: 1