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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2015, 03:38:10 PM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.

I don't actively oppose this, it's just so utterly pointless that wasting any time on this while so many genuine social problems go unaddressed for decade seems sickening to me. Who cares if defendants get to see their victim's family or not? Is this going to prevent any single crime in the entire country? Is it going to make anyone's lives concretely better?

It's funny how the "law&order" right are so prone to complaining about the "feel-goodism" of liberals, when in fact this law is the most perfect embodiment of "feel-goodism".

Not all of the harm caused to the victim by the crime is concrete, so why should the response be only geared toward that?   
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2015, 07:25:13 PM »

This is going to make it real tough when Wall Street is convicted for destroying the global economy.
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2015, 04:03:33 AM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.

I don't actively oppose this, it's just so utterly pointless that wasting any time on this while so many genuine social problems go unaddressed for decade seems sickening to me. Who cares if defendants get to see their victim's family or not? Is this going to prevent any single crime in the entire country? Is it going to make anyone's lives concretely better?

It's funny how the "law&order" right are so prone to complaining about the "feel-goodism" of liberals, when in fact this law is the most perfect embodiment of "feel-goodism".

Not all of the harm caused to the victim by the crime is concrete, so why should the response be only geared toward that?

Will seeing the person who killed your loved one(s) really heal any emotional would, either? I honestly don't see what's so important about this, or who was really asking for such a law.
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2015, 12:21:17 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2015, 12:55:32 PM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.

I don't actively oppose this, it's just so utterly pointless that wasting any time on this while so many genuine social problems go unaddressed for decade seems sickening to me. Who cares if defendants get to see their victim's family or not? Is this going to prevent any single crime in the entire country? Is it going to make anyone's lives concretely better?

It's funny how the "law&order" right are so prone to complaining about the "feel-goodism" of liberals, when in fact this law is the most perfect embodiment of "feel-goodism".

Hassan is a Democrat, but you are quite right in that American conservatives and associated no-nonsense, tell-it-like-it-is folk are the most overcompensating softies on the face of this planet Earth. Witness the police or armed forces collapsing into a heap when their hero complex isn't jerked to their satisfaction.
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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2015, 03:41:41 PM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.

I don't actively oppose this, it's just so utterly pointless that wasting any time on this while so many genuine social problems go unaddressed for decade seems sickening to me. Who cares if defendants get to see their victim's family or not? Is this going to prevent any single crime in the entire country? Is it going to make anyone's lives concretely better?

It's funny how the "law&order" right are so prone to complaining about the "feel-goodism" of liberals, when in fact this law is the most perfect embodiment of "feel-goodism".

Not all of the harm caused to the victim by the crime is concrete, so why should the response be only geared toward that?

Will seeing the person who killed your loved one(s) really heal any emotional would, either? I honestly don't see what's so important about this, or who was really asking for such a law.

Victims/families should be given the opportunity to express to the person who hurt them how it has affected them.  Whether they believe it will help them heal should be up to them, but it's certainly not ridiculous to believe it could.
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2015, 03:44:49 PM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.

I don't actively oppose this, it's just so utterly pointless that wasting any time on this while so many genuine social problems go unaddressed for decade seems sickening to me. Who cares if defendants get to see their victim's family or not? Is this going to prevent any single crime in the entire country? Is it going to make anyone's lives concretely better?

It's funny how the "law&order" right are so prone to complaining about the "feel-goodism" of liberals, when in fact this law is the most perfect embodiment of "feel-goodism".

Not all of the harm caused to the victim by the crime is concrete, so why should the response be only geared toward that?

Will seeing the person who killed your loved one(s) really heal any emotional would, either? I honestly don't see what's so important about this, or who was really asking for such a law.

Victims/families should be given the opportunity to express to the person who hurt them how it has affected them.  Whether they believe it will help them heal should be up to them, but it's certainly not ridiculous to believe it could.

But it's an opportunity that very, very, few would take (as they don't as it stands elsewhere).
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2015, 11:12:30 PM »


It's good to know that so many of our posters haven't been afflicted by serious crime in their lives.
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