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« on: August 13, 2015, 09:29:30 AM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.
Whether you think this is appropriate depends upon whether you think the primary purpose of the criminal justice system is to punish, contain, or reform criminals. While forcing the criminal to be pilloried accomplishes the first, it does nothing for the second and it is debatable whether it helps or impedes the goal of reform. That said, I'm somewhat old school and wouldn't mind seeing the pillory and the stocks brought back for minor offenses, provided the convicted are kept from being physically harmed by the onlookers. It was the failure to do that in all cases that led to their abandonment.

Facing one's victim's would be a lot more of an inspiration to reform than just about anything I can think of, and may provide a way for the victim/family to come to terms with the situation and even enable the process of forgiving and reconciliation if that is something they are willing to do.
I don't know that it would be appropriate in all cases, but in general this is a good idea.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2015, 03:38:10 PM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.

I don't actively oppose this, it's just so utterly pointless that wasting any time on this while so many genuine social problems go unaddressed for decade seems sickening to me. Who cares if defendants get to see their victim's family or not? Is this going to prevent any single crime in the entire country? Is it going to make anyone's lives concretely better?

It's funny how the "law&order" right are so prone to complaining about the "feel-goodism" of liberals, when in fact this law is the most perfect embodiment of "feel-goodism".

Not all of the harm caused to the victim by the crime is concrete, so why should the response be only geared toward that?   
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 03:41:41 PM »

How could you guys possibly oppose this? It's not forcing the families to say anything, it's forcing the criminal to see what they have done. I am glad my step-uncles killer got to hear the victim's widow "cry bitch whine and moan" at him for a half hour.

I don't actively oppose this, it's just so utterly pointless that wasting any time on this while so many genuine social problems go unaddressed for decade seems sickening to me. Who cares if defendants get to see their victim's family or not? Is this going to prevent any single crime in the entire country? Is it going to make anyone's lives concretely better?

It's funny how the "law&order" right are so prone to complaining about the "feel-goodism" of liberals, when in fact this law is the most perfect embodiment of "feel-goodism".

Not all of the harm caused to the victim by the crime is concrete, so why should the response be only geared toward that?

Will seeing the person who killed your loved one(s) really heal any emotional would, either? I honestly don't see what's so important about this, or who was really asking for such a law.

Victims/families should be given the opportunity to express to the person who hurt them how it has affected them.  Whether they believe it will help them heal should be up to them, but it's certainly not ridiculous to believe it could.
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