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« on: August 11, 2015, 09:42:55 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/top-secret-e-mails-were-sent-on-clintons-private-account-official-says/2015/08/11/f3117f08-403d-11e5-9561-4b3dc93e3b9a_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2015, 06:46:25 PM »
« Edited: August 13, 2015, 09:07:48 AM by rbt48 »

If it is found that she handled classified e-mail on her dot-com server (as appears to be unavoidable to me), she will surely face charges for violating Federal law.  I think she should end her campaign now and focus her energy on defending herself.  Also, she could provide a credible Democrat with time to organize an effective campaign.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 06:50:58 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 07:30:11 PM »

If it is found that she handled classified e-mail on her dot-com server (as appears to be unavoidable to me), she will surely face charges for violating Federal law.  I think she should end her campaign now and focus her energy on defending herself.  Also, she could provide a credible Democrat with time to organize an effective campaign.

Do you really think Obama's AG will go after Clinton in a serious way?
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 07:40:20 PM »

"We got her this time!" -most Republicans who don't realize that nobody gives a sh!t about this "scandal."
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2015, 07:42:51 PM »

If it is found that she handled classified e-mail on her dot-com server (as appears to be unavoidable to me), she will surely face charges for violating Federal law.  I think she should end her campaign now and focus her energy on defending herself.  Also, she could provide a credible Democrat with time to organize an effective campaign.

You forgot to mention how she is about to get indicted for BENGHAZI!!!
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2015, 07:43:07 PM »

Yes
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2015, 07:56:30 PM »

She'll quit after they find hidden emails saying that she personally ordered the attack on Benghazi. Obviously.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2015, 07:59:32 PM »

She shouldn't have been running in the first place...but Democrats have no plan B (even if Biden does jump in)
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2015, 08:09:53 PM »

Hell no.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 08:11:11 PM »

Yes, the best thing she could do is encourage Kirsten Gillibrand to run.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2015, 09:28:47 PM »

So far, it appears most responders don't view Clinton's mishandling of classified information to be a serious matter.  Whether the average voter cares or not, mishandling classified information is a crime that Federal employees must acknowledge when they accept a security clearance.  I believe the penalty is a $10,000 fine, 5 years in prison, or both.

If the 10% rate of classified material that the IG reportedly found in the first forty e-mails checked continues, the AG would be hard pressed not to prosecute.  Even if they just strike a plea bargain (likely for her to have no further access to classified material ever), how is she supposed to continue forward as a credible candidate?  (And, if you think about it, how would the government be able to prosecute or penalize others who breech classified information if they don't go after her?) 

Sure, the 40% of hard-core Democratic voters won't care, but a solid majority will take note and she will be mercilessly hammered for this during what is turning out to be a 15 month campaign   I'm not a Democrat and won't likely vote for whoever might run in her place, be it Warren, Biden, Cuomo, or even Webb.  But I can't believe it is too late for a strong candidate to emerge to take her place.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/12/clinton_campaign_seeks_to_calm_supporters_about_emails_127750.html
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2015, 09:34:27 PM »

Let's be honest here... if there was a scrap of evidence of illegal activity, the campaign would be over. Since there's none so far and not likely to be, this is a moot point that no one outside of us political nerds and those with Clinton hate-boners care about.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2015, 09:35:55 PM »

Not only that, but I believe Obama should resign his office and allow Republicans to select a President of their choice. Elections will only be held once the voters are re-educated to vote the proper way and if they refuse to, they will be sent to prison.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2015, 10:20:37 PM »

Check this out: 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/12/this-e-mail-story-keeps-getting-worse-for-hillary-clinton/

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2015, 10:25:47 PM »

Not at all; however, her clear "electability" argument has eroded quite a bit compared to 2 months ago, which could be a problem.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2015, 10:31:26 PM »

In your dreams pal......
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2015, 10:34:14 PM »

Should Hillary Clinton end her campaign, it would spell defeat for the Democrats so long as the GOP nominates either Rubio or Bush.
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2015, 11:16:49 PM »

Apparently the server had been stored at a computer services company in New Jersey:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-e-mail-server-turned-over-to-fbi/2015/08/12/aba5feea-4160-11e5-8ab4-c73967a143d3_story.html?postshare=4201439434969963

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2015, 11:32:29 PM »

Re: Is It TIme for Hillary Clinton to End Her Campaign?

If everyone who is running for the president of the United States from the Republican Party drops out first … your question and concern about Hillary Clinton may be considered.
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2015, 11:47:46 PM »

But ... but ... muh faux scandal!
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2015, 01:14:54 AM »

So far, it appears most responders don't view Clinton's mishandling of classified information to be a serious matter.  Whether the average voter cares or not, mishandling classified information is a crime that Federal employees must acknowledge when they accept a security clearance.  I believe the penalty is a $10,000 fine, 5 years in prison, or both.

If the 10% rate of classified material that the IG reportedly found in the first forty e-mails checked continues, the AG would be hard pressed not to prosecute.  Even if they just strike a plea bargain (likely for her to have no further access to classified material ever), how is she supposed to continue forward as a credible candidate?  (And, if you think about it, how would the government be able to prosecute or penalize others who breech classified information if they don't go after her?) 

Sure, the 40% of hard-core Democratic voters won't care, but a solid majority will take note and she will be mercilessly hammered for this during what is turning out to be a 15 month campaign   I'm not a Democrat and won't likely vote for whoever might run in her place, be it Warren, Biden, Cuomo, or even Webb.  But I can't believe it is too late for a strong candidate to emerge to take her place.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/12/clinton_campaign_seeks_to_calm_supporters_about_emails_127750.html

My prediction: her defense is going to be that someone else screwed up, and she had no idea there was all that classified information on her server.  And it'll play well enough that the only people who will care will be people who would never vote for her in the first place.
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2015, 02:09:25 AM »

I've been ignoring this email thing, but for the first time, it seems like there's some chance it might not just be some right-wing noise machine nonsense.
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2015, 04:27:50 AM »

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/congress-told-hillary-clinton-had-top-secret-emails-121277.html

She mishandled two messages that contained top secret information.

...and Hillary hacks wonder why Republicans and Independents on these forums prefer Sanders over her.
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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2015, 07:06:23 AM »

Yes, I really do at this point think the email issue is a sword of Damocles hanging over her. And although I know nothing out IT, my impression is that the FBI, with its forensic tools, will be able to recover the deleted emails now that it has her computer in hand. If they do, then the issue is if and when they are disclosed (and of course what is in them). But even absent that, given about 10% of the emails reviewed were classified, and 5% top secret, more of those will be uncovered.

Keep an eye on Biden.
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